Awful starter clutch noise still...

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12 May 2020 15:33 #825559 by Gdailey2112
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82 gPZ 1100

Installed new starter clutch and the smaller needle roller bearing. Still have the same awful noise problem though. It's annoying, and rather embarrassing, too LOL
What am I overlooking on this? Any listings of common mistakes people make doing this?? TY Gary

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13 May 2020 04:45 #825614 by CCrosswait
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Some questions to help better understand.

What was it you replaced for the clutch? The 3 springs, cups, and/or roller bearings of the starter clutch?

Did you double check the large gear could only free spin one direction? The other direction should grip the crankshaft and not free spin.

How'd the teeth on the large gear, idler gear, and starter gear look? Any broken or worn teeth?

2019 Indian FTR1200S
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1977 Yamaha RD400
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13 May 2020 06:24 #825620 by 650ed
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If you did not replace the large gear that may very well be the source of the noise. The image below shows what I mean. Ed


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13 May 2020 12:12 #825638 by Gdailey2112
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Yes, I'd replaced the starter clutch (round sprag that holds the rollers and spring caps) Also, replaced the needle roller bearing. Did not replace the actual larger gear with teeth.

Sounds like it's coming from the reduction gear area. It'd be nice if I could start with that stator cover off, ..is that possible? Any risk?

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13 May 2020 14:29 #825649 by CCrosswait
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Gdailey2112 wrote: Sounds like it's coming from the reduction gear area. It'd be nice if I could start with that stator cover off, ..is that possible? Any risk?


Without the cover there's nothing keeping the idler gear pin in place. But neither that gear, nor the starter should be spinning while the engine is running.

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14 May 2020 07:48 #825714 by Gdailey2112
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Thank you! Anyone have any shims for the reduction gear they want to part with?

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