dyna s - 2-3 timing advancer marks

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23 Apr 2020 11:49 #824069 by gixxerkidd03
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im currently installing a dyna ignition system and coils but my timing advancer does not have a mark for the 2-3 fully advanced timing?!? i have set 1-4 already , but 2-3 side just has the "T" mark. how can i indicate the fully advance timing on coil 2-3?? any thing will have, 81 kz750E. i have this question hasn't been beat to death. THANKS!

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23 Apr 2020 12:52 #824081 by DFIGPZ
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set 1 and 4 to "T"
set 2 and 3 to " T"
check advance on 1and 4

Done

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23 Apr 2020 12:57 #824082 by Mikaw
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Are you doing a static adjustment for first start or a dynamic running timing adjustment? They require bifferent procedures

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23 Apr 2020 13:15 #824085 by Mikaw
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Here’s a topic on the same issue on only have “T” mark on 2-3 cylinders

www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/599036-kz...s-not-right?start=40

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
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23 Apr 2020 15:38 #824099 by gixxerkidd03
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Sorry I should have been more clear. I am doing The initial static timing for first start with the test light. I’ll have a read thought the thread to see if it gets me there. Thank you

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23 Apr 2020 16:49 #824102 by Mikaw
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SWest had a good recommendation in that other post, measure the 1-4 distance from “T” to “F” and transferre that to your 2-3 side of the advancer. That will get you close enough to fire up but I can’t tell you how to fine tune dynamic timing without accurate 2-3 timing marks.

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24 Apr 2020 12:46 #824157 by DFIGPZ
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it does not matter when 1/4 is correct 2/3 is correct as long as both are timed at "F" mark at idle.

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24 Apr 2020 20:32 - 24 Apr 2020 20:34 #824199 by Mikaw
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With a Dyna s the pick up modules have a 10 deg adjustability on the breaker plate. Both 1-4 and 2-3 need to be adjusted. There is no guarantee the are set correctly when they are mounted to the plate at assembly. The OP said he has no “F” mark on the 2-3 side of the advancer, he has no way to verify timing on 2-3.

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1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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24 Apr 2020 22:45 #824209 by Scirocco
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It´s possible to set/sync both 1-4 and 2-3 temporary @ T-mark and advance later to F 1-4 position, ( F 2-3 is then set exact 180 degree off now as it should).
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24 Apr 2020 23:02 #824211 by Mikaw
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Scirocco wrote: It´s possible to set/sync both 1-4 and 2-3 temporary @ T-mark and advance later to F 1-4 position, ( F 2-3 is then set exact 180 degree off now as it should).


Good suggestion! Thanks

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25 Apr 2020 06:23 #824224 by Nessism
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DFIGPZ wrote: set 1 and 4 to "T"
set 2 and 3 to " T"
check advance on 1and 4

Done


This. Keep it simple.
I've never understood why Dyna recommends checking timing at full advance. When installing a Dyna S I've found if the T mark is aligned the F will be also when you hold the advancer full on.

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25 Apr 2020 08:09 #824241 by loudhvx
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Repeating from his other topic on this subject:

There are a few ways to scratch an (F) mark of your own.

The easiest is to just take off your advancer and measure the distance of the (F) mark from T mark on 1-4 and just transfer that to 2-3 and make your own (F) mark. The advancer is hardened so it doesn't scratch real easy, and sharpie marks tend to fade very quickly, so I use a center punch and make a tiny dimple.

You can also look at the timing advance specs and measure the angle using a pointer on the crank etc. if you need it that precise.

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