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Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
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29 Dec 2019 14:26 #816085
by Charles 750B
Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies. was created by Charles 750B
1976 KZ750 Twin
Worked fine for 7000 miles. The other day, I tried to pull out of an intersection with the tach going to a normal 6000 for me, but this time when revs dropped, the bike started running on one cylinder. I rode all the way home with 375cc's worth of power. The next day, I put a new plug in and it ran well, but then right as I revved it a couple times, it coughed and stumbled then finally died. It also seems to switch cylinders, not dependent on which plug wire is on the plug.
If idle circuit was dirty, then why would the bike idle great until revved above 5500RPM? Could it be the coil? It has taken the bike 7000miles.
If there were vacuum leaks, debris in carbs, wrong float level, wrong fuel level, then why did the problem appear out of nowhere?
This bike ran great for 7000 miles before it made a pop noise on an acceleration, and has never been the same since then....
Thanks for any advice given.
Charles
Worked fine for 7000 miles. The other day, I tried to pull out of an intersection with the tach going to a normal 6000 for me, but this time when revs dropped, the bike started running on one cylinder. I rode all the way home with 375cc's worth of power. The next day, I put a new plug in and it ran well, but then right as I revved it a couple times, it coughed and stumbled then finally died. It also seems to switch cylinders, not dependent on which plug wire is on the plug.
If idle circuit was dirty, then why would the bike idle great until revved above 5500RPM? Could it be the coil? It has taken the bike 7000miles.
If there were vacuum leaks, debris in carbs, wrong float level, wrong fuel level, then why did the problem appear out of nowhere?
This bike ran great for 7000 miles before it made a pop noise on an acceleration, and has never been the same since then....
Thanks for any advice given.
Charles
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29 Dec 2019 14:42 #816086
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My 1975 Z 1 B 900 Project
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Looks like a fuel starvation Problem like a vaccum in the fuel tank (clooged cap vent). Try to test drive with the tank cap open.
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29 Dec 2019 15:30 #816090
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Original owner 78 1000 LTD
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Replied by Street Fighter LTD on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
Do you have a fuel filter ? In line or in the tank ?
Is your fuel contaminated ?
Sounds like a fuel starvation problem as already mentioned
Dave
Is your fuel contaminated ?
Sounds like a fuel starvation problem as already mentioned
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Mr Turbo Race Kit, MTC 1075 Turbo pistons by PitStop Performance , Falicon Ultra Lite Super Crank, APE everything. Les Holt @ PDM's Billet Goodies . Frame by Chuck Kurzawa @ Logghe Chassis . Deep sump 5qt oil pan. RIP Bill Hahn
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29 Dec 2019 16:03 #816095
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1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Replied by loudhvx on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
Could also be a bad electrical connection somewhere. The high revs might vibrate a switch contact loose then it makes and breaks while idling.
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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29 Dec 2019 17:02 #816101
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Replied by Charles 750B on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
Alright, I will check each of the things mentioned!
It has the little in tank filter nubs. I figured running alternate filters might make fuel flow too slow.
Before it dies, there is popping and crackling out the exhaust.
I would think the fuel would "catch back up " in the bowls if I kept it idling but it never does.
It has the little in tank filter nubs. I figured running alternate filters might make fuel flow too slow.
Before it dies, there is popping and crackling out the exhaust.
I would think the fuel would "catch back up " in the bowls if I kept it idling but it never does.
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29 Dec 2019 17:03 #816102
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1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
Replied by TexasKZ on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
6,000 rpm to pull away from an intersection?
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29 Dec 2019 17:12 #816103
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Replied by Charles 750B on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
One strange thing...
When I open the enrichener just a little, the bike revs through the whole range fine and does not stumble. So lets say it was lean?
But it will idle smooth and not miss a beat, and headers dont get really hot. As soon as I rev it, it changes personality.
6000RPMs.... I like to live in the fast lane like the Eagles...
When I open the enrichener just a little, the bike revs through the whole range fine and does not stumble. So lets say it was lean?
But it will idle smooth and not miss a beat, and headers dont get really hot. As soon as I rev it, it changes personality.
6000RPMs.... I like to live in the fast lane like the Eagles...
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29 Dec 2019 18:05 #816104
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
Replied by 650ed on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
If you have been pulling away from a dead stop at 6,000 rpm I'm not really surprised the bike is now running poorly. Why would you want to do that? Ed
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29 Dec 2019 19:28 #816106
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Replied by Charles 750B on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
I go up to 6000 in first gear! Not start at 6000 in first gear...hahahaha....my tire tread would be long gone if I was doing that.
I am sorry but organizing my thoughts for others to understand is tough for me so I can see how that would be misinterpreted.
I am sorry but organizing my thoughts for others to understand is tough for me so I can see how that would be misinterpreted.
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04 Jan 2020 10:16 #816428
by Charles 750B
Replied by Charles 750B on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
The bike works again!
Thank you all for your answers. It helped me get past the initial frustration of a non working bike.
The pilot had a tiny piece of leaf in it and on top of that, the route from bowl to main to pilot also had some dirt build up.
Should I get in line fuel filters? Will they impede the flow of fuel?
Thank you all for your answers. It helped me get past the initial frustration of a non working bike.
The pilot had a tiny piece of leaf in it and on top of that, the route from bowl to main to pilot also had some dirt build up.
Should I get in line fuel filters? Will they impede the flow of fuel?
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04 Jan 2020 10:23 - 04 Jan 2020 10:30 #816430
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Replied by TexasKZ on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
An inline filter is a good idea. As long as you buy one designed for gravity-feed motorcycle application, it will flow just fine. I recommend the Golan micro-mini. It is more expensive that the plastic disposable ones, but it is unaffected by ethanol and filters much finer debris. Yes, every year or two it is a good idea to open it up and clean the filter screen, but that requires very little more effort than replacing the cheaper ones every year.
Again, be sure whatever you use, it is designed foe a system with no fuel pump. Filters designed for pressurized systems typically have a paper element, which will saturate with fuel and stop flowing if there is no pump. Yes, I have that t-shirt.
Edit: I see that it is called the Super Mini at Denis Kirk.
www.denniskirk.com/snowmobile/golan-prod...ontent=Golan+Filters
Here is a direct link to Golan
golanproducts.com/product-category/filters/super-mini-filters/
Again, be sure whatever you use, it is designed foe a system with no fuel pump. Filters designed for pressurized systems typically have a paper element, which will saturate with fuel and stop flowing if there is no pump. Yes, I have that t-shirt.
Edit: I see that it is called the Super Mini at Denis Kirk.
www.denniskirk.com/snowmobile/golan-prod...ontent=Golan+Filters
Here is a direct link to Golan
golanproducts.com/product-category/filters/super-mini-filters/
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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04 Jan 2020 11:46 #816434
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Replied by Charles 750B on topic Twin idles smooth for minutes, but when revved to 6000RPM drops pops and dies.
Awesome! Thanks again for all the help, I really appreciate it. I will get those filters.
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