KZ650 RPM and GEAR relationship

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10 Oct 2018 16:50 - 10 Oct 2018 16:51 #792135 by 650Dude
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Took my bike (1977 Kawa KZ650) out today after it sat for 1.5 months ( have other bikes and rotate them).

On all my other bikes, including my 77 KZ750, I noticed that in first gear at 4k rpm Im usually at 23-25mph.

However on my 77 KZ650 It have to get up to 5k rpm in first gear to get to 23-25moh. Is this normal?

1977 Kawasaki KZ650B
1977 Kawasaki KZ750 Twin
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10 Oct 2018 16:57 #792137 by Nessism
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Sounds normal. The 750 is a twin with a lower redline and more torque, so it can be geared taller.

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10 Oct 2018 17:10 - 10 Oct 2018 17:14 #792140 by bluej58
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That's why your kz650 will beat all your other bikes out of the hole.
And stay up with stock 75 900's to a point, I use to do it all the time.
My buddy's 74 was untouchable, dam shame what happened to that one :(

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10 Oct 2018 17:23 - 10 Oct 2018 17:23 #792142 by 650Dude
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bluej58 wrote: That's why your kz650 will beat all your other bikes out of the hole.
And stay up with stock 75 900's to a point, I use to do it all the time.
My buddy's 74 was untouchable, dam shame what happened to that one :(


When you say "out of the hole" do you mean from 0 to 60?

I have found the KZ650 to be shitty compared to say, a KZ750 twin or Yamaha XS650 which will beat a lot of bike coming off a red light.

HOWEVER. the KZ650 is a MONSTER from 50 and above. The bike just doesnt want to quit. It was the ultimate middle finger to Honda's CB750 (I have a 1972 CB 750 so I know what Im talking about). The KZ650 is one INCREDIBLE machine.

The only thing I have more potent in my stable is my 1982 Honda CB 900F Super Sport, seen here - just two photos of my 5 bikes

1977 Kawasaki KZ650B
1977 Kawasaki KZ750 Twin
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10 Oct 2018 17:58 - 10 Oct 2018 18:00 #792143 by 650ed
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650Dude wrote: ...................I have found the KZ650 to be shitty compared to say, a KZ750 twin or Yamaha XS650 which will beat a lot of bike coming off a red light....


Either there was a problem with the bike or the rider. The KZ650 is considerably quicker and faster than the XS650 or the KZ750 twin. I can tell you from personal experience that my KZ650-C1 is easily quicker than either of those other models. For instance, with a typical rider the 0-60 mph time for the KZ650 is 4.9 seconds while the 0-60 mph time for the XS650 is 5.8 seconds. Ed

Reference:
greatbikesoftheseventies.com/bikes-speci...ecifications-01.html
motoprofi.com/motospecspictures/kawasaki/z_650-1978.html
cruiser.mototribe.com/motorcycles/other-xs650/specs
www.chuckhawks.com/yamaha_xs650.html

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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10 Oct 2018 18:01 - 10 Oct 2018 18:03 #792144 by bluej58
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0 to 60 !
I use to ride with a lot of 900's and 1000's
My buddy in the red helmet had a 77 XS650 and my bike was that blue 77 650 custom up front
They couldn't shake ether one of us off the line
Other then " The Bulldog's 74" that is
Circa 77-78

78 KZ1000 A2A
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10 Oct 2018 18:05 #792145 by 650Dude
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bluej58 wrote: 0 to 60 !
I use to ride with a lot of 900's and 1000's
My buddy in the red helmet had a 77 XS650 and my bike was that blue 77 650 custom up front
They couldn't shake ether one of us off the line
Other then " The Bulldog's 74" that is
Circa 77-78


Great photos!

Maybe Im doing something wrong but my KZ is SLOW from a stoplight. Hmmm. Maybe I should rev higher and let her go?

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1977 Kawasaki KZ750 Twin

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10 Oct 2018 18:18 - 10 Oct 2018 18:19 #792146 by bluej58
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Hang on tight and shift at red line!

Note: you do have good tires right?

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10 Oct 2018 18:23 #792148 by 650Dude
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bluej58 wrote: Hang on tight and shift at red line!

Note: you do have good tires right?


Yeah great tires!

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1977 Kawasaki KZ750 Twin

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