KZ650 Timing chain adjustment????? HELP:(

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31 Jul 2018 16:51 #787974 by GS963
I just got my 1977 KZ650B1 started after installing new carbs. Bike seem to run fine But I noticed a little rattle noise from engine. I think it was timing chain. I understood that this timing chain adjustment worked like on a 80s honda 750. Loosen the bolt turn engine over slow maybe a revolution then just tighten bolt and your done. Well After loosening the bolt on the adjuster turning engine over with my foot and retightening the bolt the noise is MUCH worse I can hear a whirling noise even like chain is hitting or rubbing.  WHAT DID I do to cause this. Should I remove the adjuster and reset it or something?

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31 Jul 2018 17:15 #787975 by SWest
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Try turning it with a wrench per the FSM and see if it helps.
Steve

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31 Jul 2018 17:36 - 31 Jul 2018 17:37 #787976 by GS963
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Looks like I messed up for sure. It seems the chain is much looser now. Definitly hear it rubbing on something. Would seem that it should be tighter. I was not aware of taking off the points cover procedure. Could it be too tight and cause the noise? Not sure if it will correct the problem now but will try it. 
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31 Jul 2018 17:46 #787977 by 650ed
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Sorry if I sound like an A-hole, but you really thought a 1977 Kawasaki worked the same as a 1980's Honda?  Why didn't you simply look in the Kawasaki Service Manual to see how to do things correctly instead of guessing?  If you can't afford the buy the manual then do yourself a huge favor and use the free one posted on this site (see link below).  Ed

www.kzrider.com/modules/ServiceManuals/K...Service%20Manual.pdf

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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31 Jul 2018 17:59 #787979 by SWest
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By kicking it over you run the chance of skipping a tooth. Turn it over by hand and if you feel it stop, don't go any further.
Steve

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31 Jul 2018 20:38 #787987 by GS963
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I hear you and you are correct!!!

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31 Jul 2018 20:44 #787988 by SWest
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31 Jul 2018 21:57 #787991 by Big Jay

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01 Aug 2018 06:01 #787997 by GS963
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I need to start over. Since I loosened the bolt already it it not true that the spring must be extended all the way and it needs to be taken off and pushed in and bold tightened so I can do the procedure by the manual?

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01 Aug 2018 06:49 #787999 by KZB2 650
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Sounds like a good idea to take the tentioner out and push it back then loosening it again for adjustment. Get it set on one of the timing marks before removing it....... the 77 and 78 manual shows a diff spot to set it on before adj so even between these 2 models its a little different. Probably didn't skip a tooth like Steve said but would be a good idea to check the timing marks too just in case...... Now that you have a manual would be a good time to check the valve clearance too while you have the valve cover off. (You da man Ed).

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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01 Aug 2018 06:54 - 01 Aug 2018 06:56 #788000 by martin_csr
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I would get a gasket or two beforehand. Usually on EB, you can get a lot of 2 or 3 gaskets to lower the per unit price. spare points cover gaskets would be handy. I'm pretty sure all KZ650s & 750-4 models use the same gasket (aka pulsing coil gasket).

Also, there are 2 different tensioners shown in the diagram for the 1977 KZ650-B1, so verify which one you have.
EB photos can be handy for stuff like this, especially if you can find NOS part pics.


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01 Aug 2018 08:59 #788003 by GS963
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Thanks guys. I done this before I saw your post. I went to my 77 factory manual and turned the engine as it stated. then I loosened the bolt again it sounded like it readjusted when I loosened it. I retightened it and started the bike. It FIXED the noise!!! So it appears maybe it was just too tight because of the engine not being set in right place. Really APPRECIATE your guys help and advice.

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