PSA re: Left side knocking noise
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PSA re: Left side knocking noise
10 Jul 2017 15:47
Hey fellow KZ riders, just wanted to make a PSA for y'all. I've read a handful of threads re: a knocking noise coming from the left side of the bike. I know the problem has been pointed out by others, but I want to provide additional visual confirmation in case some other poor sap is trying to isolate and diagnose a similar noise. Attached here are photos of the starter clutch, with one of the bolts sheared clean off. Furthermore, the other 2 bolts were finger-loose and the threads are mildly gacked. Needless to say, if you hear a knocking,
pinging noise that seems to come from the left side of your KZ, pull your starter clutch apart and look it over.
pinging noise that seems to come from the left side of your KZ, pull your starter clutch apart and look it over.
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"Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba...." - HST
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
10 Jul 2017 16:20
It looks like some one has over tighten the screw.
If i looking closer on the screw heads, it looks like someone hit it with the hammer to loosen it before your disaster.
Use only new screws in high grade quality like 10.9 or 12.9
If i looking closer on the screw heads, it looks like someone hit it with the hammer to loosen it before your disaster.
Use only new screws in high grade quality like 10.9 or 12.9
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
10 Jul 2017 16:27
That's common on the starter clutches.
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
10 Jul 2017 19:22SWest wrote: That's common on the starter clutches.
Steve
Yeah, that's what I've read. I just wanted to show what happens if something like that goes unaddressed. I rode the bike once since I bought it, knowing there was something wrong with the starter clutch. It helps to have pictures to know what parts look like as well as what happens when things break

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"Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba...." - HST
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
10 Jul 2017 19:25
I do have a question: where would I get a high-grade replacement bolt? None of the parts outlets I've found show what grade their bolts are.
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"Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba...." - HST
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"Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba...." - HST
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
10 Jul 2017 19:34
I appreciate the pics and added info. Thanks partner.
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
10 Jul 2017 19:41
I think they are grade 7 Japanese standard. The HDWR store should have M8 8.5 Allens that size. I'm going to take another look at mine.
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
11 Jul 2017 05:13 - 11 Jul 2017 05:19
The auto parts store might have high grade steel bolts. grade markings on metric bolt heads = 10.9 or 12.9 ...
bolt depot grades
just an example. not sure what size you need.
autozone --- Hillman M10 - 1.25 --- 10.9
just an example. not sure what size you need.
autozone --- Hillman M10 - 1.25 --- 10.9
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
25 Jul 2017 22:09
Update on bolts: starter clutch Allen socket bolts from Partzilla are 10.9 in case anyone was wondering.
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"Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba...." - HST
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Re: PSA re: Left side knocking noise
25 Jul 2017 22:59 - 25 Jul 2017 23:05
Some metric screw specs (EN-ISO 898-1 / EN 20898-2)
tensile strength: 8.8 = 8 (first number) x 100 = 800 Nm
yield strength 8.8 = 8 (first number) x 8 (second number) x 10 = 640 Nm
tensile strength: 12.9 = 12 (first number) x 100 = 1200 Nm
yield strength: 12.9 = 12 (first number) x 9 (second number) x 10 = 1080 Nm
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tensile strength: 8.8 = 8 (first number) x 100 = 800 Nm
yield strength 8.8 = 8 (first number) x 8 (second number) x 10 = 640 Nm
tensile strength: 12.9 = 12 (first number) x 100 = 1200 Nm
yield strength: 12.9 = 12 (first number) x 9 (second number) x 10 = 1080 Nm
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