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Oil scraper rings falling out of place and binding
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05 Jul 2017 16:21 #766145
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1982 KZ1100 B2 - 'Old Red' kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/601185-gpz-1100-resto-mod-old-red
2015 BMW K1600GT
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Oil scraper rings falling out of place and binding was created by diego092409
I have tried unsuccessfully two times to try to install the cylinder block on my kz110b2. Each time I have had a few of the bottom scraper rings fall out of place and bind up the entire cylinder block. All of the rings were sitting in the grooves before I began pushing the block down.
I talked with a coworker and he suggested scotch tape that would melt (it was a joke) but made me wonder if there is anything to temporarily hold these more delicate rings in place?
I talked with a coworker and he suggested scotch tape that would melt (it was a joke) but made me wonder if there is anything to temporarily hold these more delicate rings in place?
1982 KZ1100 B2 - 'Old Red' kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/601185-gpz-1100-resto-mod-old-red
2015 BMW K1600GT
2017 KTM 690 Enduro R
2018 Kymco Spade (wife's)
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05 Jul 2017 16:27 #766146
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1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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Been there, done it, got the gouged bores...
There is a factory tool ring compressor, or just get a (skilled) assistant and do with you one each two at a time with wood blocks holding the block up. There is quite a decent lead-in champher on the liners...until you start boring out.
There is a factory tool ring compressor, or just get a (skilled) assistant and do with you one each two at a time with wood blocks holding the block up. There is quite a decent lead-in champher on the liners...until you start boring out.
1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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05 Jul 2017 18:10 #766160
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1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.
Replied by zukdave on topic Oil scraper rings falling out of place and binding
I cut a band out of a 2 ltr soda bottle to rap the ring's then us a hose clamp to compress the ring's.
1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.
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06 Jul 2017 06:06 #766216
by daveo
1982 KZ1100-A2
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This worked on the first-attempt for me...
www.kzrider.com/forum/21-tools/591927-ka...ssor?start=20#710233
www.kzrider.com/forum/21-tools/591927-ka...ssor?start=20#710233
1982 KZ1100-A2
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06 Jul 2017 10:55 #766232
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1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
Replied by KZB2 650 on topic Oil scraper rings falling out of place and binding
Jay from APE told me to just push em in by hand when I asked him and that's what I did with very good luck ... thank God...... before hand though I read about this problem and Jay and Red line both told me to watch out for this so I was a nervous wreck till I had it bolted up and it turned smooth..... to be honest till I had a few hundred miles on it.
If I had it to do again I'd probably try the pop can and clamp trick or Daveo's..
If I had it to do again I'd probably try the pop can and clamp trick or Daveo's..
1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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07 Jul 2017 04:08 #766289
by diego092409
1982 KZ1100 B2 - 'Old Red' kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/601185-gpz-1100-resto-mod-old-red
2015 BMW K1600GT
2017 KTM 690 Enduro R
2018 Kymco Spade (wife's)
Replied by diego092409 on topic Oil scraper rings falling out of place and binding
First time I tried doing it by myself and it was fit to be tied. Then got the jugs off and tried again with the wife for an extra set of hands. I thought I had it together and fitted in there but it got tight. I knew they came off smoothly and that they should go back on smoothly. I didn't know if there was a sticky grease I could put on them to hold them in place or it was just 4 hands with chop sticks and being really patient.
1982 KZ1100 B2 - 'Old Red' kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/601185-gpz-1100-resto-mod-old-red
2015 BMW K1600GT
2017 KTM 690 Enduro R
2018 Kymco Spade (wife's)
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07 Jul 2017 04:44 #766291
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I found it easest to block up the center cylinders, get them down, then do the outside ones...it's a real joy to do. a helper would make the job better.
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