1982 KZ440-A engine noise at RPM

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04 Mar 2017 17:46 #755794 by FriskyNinja
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Hello everyone. I have a 1982 Kawasaki 440 LTD that I picked up for $250 from a friend. The friend owned it for 6 years and rode it for the first two years he owned it, then the battery died and he stored it. I purchased the bike, cleaned it up, new battery, rebuilt the carbs, cleaned the tank, and prettied it up a bit expecting the bike to be able to start and go with minimal work. However, now that it's running it's knocking like crazy and has a slight chain noise at the rear of the engine (I assume the final drive chain). Here is a link to a private YouTube clip of the engine running for 14 seconds with revving to around 3500 rpm. I would love some opinions of what it is and what I should look for if I end up tearing it down, or if I should just find a cheap engine to replace it with. I appreciate any help that can be given.



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04 Mar 2017 19:34 #755800 by Nebr_Rex
Replied by Nebr_Rex on topic 1982 KZ440-A engine noise at RPM
Sounds like a rod. Check your valve clearance and cam chain tensioner first to eliminate those possibilities.
You could swap another engine. But that would be taking a chance on another bad engine. I would rebuild
what I had and then I know what I have. What pipe do you install on the bike?


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79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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04 Mar 2017 19:54 #755801 by TexasKZ
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BTW, that chain noise is not the final drive chain, your bike is belt drive. Could be cam chain, The crankshaft has a chain drive balancer and the starter is chain drive. They will make quite a clatter if the carbs and valves are not adjusted properly.

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04 Mar 2017 20:33 #755808 by Nebr_Rex
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The primary is chain driven.


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2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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05 Mar 2017 15:07 #755862 by FriskyNinja
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Nebr_Rex wrote: Sounds like a rod. Check your valve clearance and cam chain tensioner first to eliminate those possibilities.
You could swap another engine. But that would be taking a chance on another bad engine. I would rebuild
what I had and then I know what I have. What pipe do you install on the bike?


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The pipes were on it when I bought it, I rattled them black.

The tensioner is automatic on this bike and the chain seems taught and the valves are in spec.

I'm thinking I may rebuild it so like you said I know what's in it.

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05 Mar 2017 17:42 #755877 by Nebr_Rex
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The stock exhaust would have a muffler on both sides.
If you need some info on what can be done to the 440
look at the link in my signature.


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2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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08 Mar 2017 09:54 #756172 by Kitten Tooth
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I had a starter clutch come loose on my KZ1000. I'm sure it was similar to the one on your bike (even though yours is a chain driven starter). When that thing comes loose off the big magnetic flywheel on the end of the crank, it can make some ugly noises. Its more of a rattle than a knock though. You can get a pretty good look at the rods if you remove the oil pan. (saves the top end gaskets if its not a con-rod issue. alittle Side-to-side play is normal but in-out play is bad.

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