Oil leaking from behind the sprocket

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14 Oct 2016 09:22 - 14 Oct 2016 10:08 #745227 by FL IcedTea
Oil leaking from behind the sprocket was created by FL IcedTea
Last week I pulled the engine to do some work and was unable to get the bolt off the sprocket with a breaker bar. The FSM recommends using a Engine Sprocket and Flywheel holder(which I don't have). Instead, I had a buddy sit on it in gear while I tugged on it. It did not budge. I ended up leaving the chain on. After putting it all back together, a steady oil leak emerged from behind the engine sprocket. I haven't bent the washer back in place yet, but would assume that wouldn't effect the oil leak, Also. I attempted to tighten it with the breaker bar but it didn't seem to move at all.

I have access to an impact wrench. Is this just a matter of using it to tighten the sprocket? Attached below is a video I recorded of it.

Edit: So there is this thread. www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/460573-ou...-seal-leaking#460579
This seems to be my my solution.



1978 kz650c2: Dyna Coils, pods, 4 - 1 exhaust
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14 Oct 2016 10:48 #745230 by Nerdy
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FL IcedTea wrote: Last week I pulled the engine to do some work and was unable to get the bolt off the sprocket with a breaker bar. The FSM recommends using a Engine Sprocket and Flywheel holder(which I don't have). Instead, I had a buddy sit on it in gear while I tugged on it. It did not budge.


By having the bike in gear, you placed all the load/stress from the breaker bar on the transmission. IOW you were basically trying to turn the engine by rotating the output shaft. I suspect that you and the breaker bar put a side load on the output shaft and disturbed the seal.

I believe the other generally accepted way to remove that stubborn bolt is to have the rear brake applied firmly while you use the breaker bar. That way the chain and sprockets are taking the stress (because of the brakes) instead of the engine taking the stress because it doesn't want to turn over that way. Of course that's not really an option if the engine is out of the frame, but something to think about for next time.

Maybe if you had a Darth Maul style breaker bar you could keep the force* rotational rather than lateral, even on the workbench, by pushing with one arm and pulling with the other but you would probably give up a certain amount of leverage to do so.


* no pun intended

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14 Oct 2016 11:45 - 14 Oct 2016 11:49 #745232 by missionkz
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The way I do it is to leave the chain on the countershaft sprocket and slip an old screwdriver in between the links of the chain, ... from top to bottom, on the right side of the sprocket so it binds up and cannot rotate.
Or you can use a long 1/4" bolt and nut, and insert from top to bottom chain runs iinstead of an old screwdriver.

Bruce
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2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
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14 Oct 2016 19:47 #745253 by Kapahulu
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An impact wrench will make life so much easier and they don't cost much if you buy used. I bought a really nice one for $40. It's a huge time saver. No more struggling with sprocket and clutch nuts.

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17 Oct 2016 10:05 #745433 by JoHNY
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A new seal should do the job, don't think you bent the shaft.

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18 Oct 2016 06:29 #745522 by MDZ1rider
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Use the Impact wrench to remove the sprocket and replace the seal. That seal is not dependent upon torque to seal so additional tightening will not stop the leak. You only have to remove the trans cover to replace the seal.

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19 Oct 2016 09:48 - 19 Oct 2016 11:13 #745665 by FL IcedTea
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Got the new seal in the mail today, Before I replace it do I need to drain the oil?

EDIT: Yes

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19 Oct 2016 12:22 #745677 by MDZ1rider
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Some will tell you can lay the bike over on its side, and they're not wrong. That's more for emergency road side repairs IMO. I would drain the oil. Did you get a new gasket for the trans cover as well?

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19 Oct 2016 17:58 #745702 by FL IcedTea
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MDZ1rider wrote: Some will tell you can lay the bike over on its side, and they're not wrong. That's more for emergency road side repairs IMO. I would drain the oil. Did you get a new gasket for the trans cover as well?


No, unfortunately I did not, But luckily, I live within driving distance of the z1enterprise warehouse so hopefully I can just drop in and pick one up.

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