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swest wrote: Do you have the worm gear type or the ball and ramp?
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Worm gear.
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Nessism wrote: I had a similar issue that was traced to warped clutch plates. Couldn't see any flatness issues in the parts but after replacing with new OEM parts the dragging issue was gone.
Thanks. I can look at that. I almost replaced the whole damn pack with one from APE.
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swest wrote: I'm surprised. Have you tried not backing out the screw 1/4 turn. I don't do it anyway.
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That would not help. If I back the screw out 1/4 turn the clutch would engage less when I pull the lever. My concern is that the clutch is not fully disengaged while I am holding the lever in at a stop with the engine running. Perhaps I need to just replace the clutch plates.
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No, wait - check your helix type clutch release for travel /wear, first... then pull the clutch out...
Before you do even that, how bad is it dragging? Not wanting to sound like a "did you check to see if it is plugged in and the power is turned on" type comment - but even a healthy stock clutch drags a little when the lever is pulled...especially with cold / high viscosity oil.
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kaw-a-holic wrote:
Nessism wrote: I had a similar issue that was traced to warped clutch plates. Couldn't see any flatness issues in the parts but after replacing with new OEM parts the dragging issue was gone.
Thanks. I can look at that. I almost replaced the whole damn pack with one from APE.
Just a warning - all of the riders I know that tried the APE "extra plate" kit were not happy with it on the street (in the long term)...strong as bear yes, but a bit more grabby and hard to modulate while accelerating away from traffic lights / stop and go traffic. And when cold they draggggggggggg......although my stock R1 clutch drags even more when cold...Stepping into first cold, even after blipping the throttle w/ clutch in several times, it always goes KRUNCH (very annoying / alarming). I'm not looking forward to taking that one apart...
I have two of those APE kits unopened and one that was removed barely used. They are best for the weekend warrior drag bikes in my opinion. For the street - stick with stock, EBC, or Barnett (if you can still get them)...just my two cents...
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Kray-Z wrote:
kaw-a-holic wrote:
Nessism wrote: I had a similar issue that was traced to warped clutch plates. Couldn't see any flatness issues in the parts but after replacing with new OEM parts the dragging issue was gone.
Thanks. I can look at that. I almost replaced the whole damn pack with one from APE.
Just a warning - all of the riders I know that tried the APE "extra plate" kit were not happy with it on the street (in the long term)...strong as bear yes, but a bit more grabby and hard to modulate while accelerating away from traffic lights / stop and go traffic. And when cold they draggggggggggg......although my stock R1 clutch drags even more when cold...Stepping into first cold, even after blipping the throttle w/ clutch in several times, it always goes KRUNCH (very annoying / alarming). I'm not looking forward to taking that one apart...
I have two of those APE kits unopened and one that was removed barely used. They are best for the weekend warrior drag bikes in my opinion. For the street - stick with stock, EBC, or Barnett (if you can still get them)...just my two cents...
Thanks for the feed back. The clutch plates are stock. It was slipping so I took is apart and sanded the varnish off of the plates. There are no extra plates. The friction plates have been replaced but they are cheapies not EBC's. I found some Barrett plates on eBay new for $50 so I will get those and a quality set of EBC friction plates.
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