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1981 GPZ1100 Kerker exhaust question
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07 Jan 2016 15:32 - 07 Jan 2016 15:34 #705917
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1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
1977 KZ650B1
1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT
1980 Suzuki SP400
Old enough to know better, still too young to care
Replied by redhawk4 on topic 1981 GPZ1100 Kerker exhaust question
I guess V&H should know, but it's hard to see any real restriction in the shape of the road exhaust. It probably depends how highly tuned your motor is as to whether it makes any real world difference and I would also suspect the difference is at the highest of rpms.
1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
1977 KZ650B1
1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT
1980 Suzuki SP400
Old enough to know better, still too young to care
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07 Jan 2016 15:54 #705922
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Replied by SWest on topic 1981 GPZ1100 Kerker exhaust question
With the system I bought the two other baffles for it. Those baffles fit both style exhaust systems. I suspect is has to do with the length of the pipe after the collector. Back pressure/scavenging? I've noticed modern systems have longer runs and smaller mufflers.
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07 Jan 2016 18:22 - 07 Jan 2016 18:23 #705926
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08 Jan 2016 02:32 #705940
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Replied by Kawzilla on topic 1981 GPZ1100 Kerker exhaust question
Thanks everyone for all the input. I'm gonna go with the Kerker 127-61004 exhaust.
Now...I have another delema.
I'd like to install the largest baffle available. I believe it should be the 2.5" competition baffle. SuperTrapp lists the part number as 100-6356.
Doing a google search of that part number shows 2 baffle sizes. Some web sites list that part number as the medium 2.0" baffle, some list it as the 2.5". From what I see, the SuperTrapp catalog may be incorrect. But I can't say for sure. Its confusing.
Does anyone know which is the correct SuperTrapp part number for the large competition baffle? Depending on the google search it could be either 100-6356 or 100-6357.
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Now...I have another delema.
I'd like to install the largest baffle available. I believe it should be the 2.5" competition baffle. SuperTrapp lists the part number as 100-6356.
Doing a google search of that part number shows 2 baffle sizes. Some web sites list that part number as the medium 2.0" baffle, some list it as the 2.5". From what I see, the SuperTrapp catalog may be incorrect. But I can't say for sure. Its confusing.
Does anyone know which is the correct SuperTrapp part number for the large competition baffle? Depending on the google search it could be either 100-6356 or 100-6357.
Thx
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08 Jan 2016 04:05 #705944
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Way expensive. Too big a baffle and you will lose ponies.
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08 Jan 2016 11:22 - 08 Jan 2016 11:38 #705979
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I called SuperTrapp, spoke with a customer service agent and explained their website lists different part numbers for the same baffle(s). The customer service guy was as confused as I was. Long story short, the 100-6357 is the large 2.5" inlet with 2.5" outlet baffle and the 100-6356 is the medium 2.5" inlet with 2.0" outlet. SuperTrapp will update their catalog to reflect the part number mistakes.
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08 Jan 2016 11:46 #705981
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Replied by Kawzilla on topic 1981 GPZ1100 Kerker exhaust question
Can you explain a little more? The motor won't be stock. It's being built and will be pretty healthy. Going from the medium 2.0" baffle to the large 2.5" baffle isn't a big step. Or at least I didn't think so.
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08 Jan 2016 12:34 #705987
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Replied by TexasKZ on topic 1981 GPZ1100 Kerker exhaust question
That's a 25% increase.
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08 Jan 2016 12:39 #705988
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It depends on how it's going to be used. What works in the 1/4 mile won't do well on the street. With stock carbs the street baffle worked but the competition was better. Add the larger carbs the street baffle was like putting a cork in it. I tried the race baffle and my top end dropped off. GONE If it's a new exhaust, I'd try the middle one for a while, then get the bigger one if need be.
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08 Jan 2016 12:53 #705992
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1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
Replied by KZB2 650 on topic 1981 GPZ1100 Kerker exhaust question
Wonder if he should run his mods by Larry C and see what he thinks ...... at 180 bucks a baffle you could buy a complete V and Hines or a Delkevic for the price of 2.
1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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08 Jan 2016 16:03 - 08 Jan 2016 16:03 #706012
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Well it's actually area that matters, not just the diameter, so it's proportional to the radius squared, so it's actually a 56% increase in area, which is quite a lot, but while I can do the maths, I don't know what actual real world difference that makes
1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
1977 KZ650B1
1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT
1980 Suzuki SP400
Old enough to know better, still too young to care
Replied by redhawk4 on topic 1981 GPZ1100 Kerker exhaust question
TexasKZ wrote: That's a 25% increase.
Well it's actually area that matters, not just the diameter, so it's proportional to the radius squared, so it's actually a 56% increase in area, which is quite a lot, but while I can do the maths, I don't know what actual real world difference that makes
1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
1977 KZ650B1
1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT
1980 Suzuki SP400
Old enough to know better, still too young to care
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