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28 Sep 2015 10:32 - 28 Sep 2015 10:36 #692324 by yorkieUK
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What is the difference between the B8ES & BR8ES?
Does anyone run their KZ1000P on NGK Iridium plugs or Brisk Premium LGS plugs?



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28 Sep 2015 10:49 #692328 by 650ed
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The "R" in "BR8ES" stands for resistor. You bike doesn't need resistor plugs, and if it has resistor spark plug caps using R plugs may cause a problem. Ed

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28 Sep 2015 10:51 #692329 by yorkieUK
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Thanks Ed.

650ed wrote: The "R" in "BR8ES" stands for resistor. You bike doesn't need resistor plugs, and if it has resistor spark plug caps using R plugs may cause a problem. Ed


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28 Sep 2015 13:09 #692353 by Puffin
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Yorkie you can run your Zed on the Brisk plugs. Good quality and cheap, i no longer use other manufactures :)

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28 Sep 2015 13:34 #692358 by pete greek1
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Puffin wrote: Yorkie you can run your Zed on the Brisk plugs. Good quality and cheap, i no longer use other manufactures :)

how do you figure cheap, at 17.99 each plug ??
Pete

1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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28 Sep 2015 13:51 #692359 by 650ed
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$17.99 each! Holy cow! I use the specified ND plugs and have never have any problems with them; a set very easily lasts more than 10,000 miles. A few years ago I bought 4 packs of 10 (40 spark plugs) from eBay for $12 with free delivery! That's enough plugs to last beyond my lifetime. :laugh: I would look at using the specified ND or NGK plugs since they work perfectly fine. Ed

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28 Sep 2015 15:59 #692391 by pete greek1
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650ed wrote: $17.99 each! Holy cow! I use the specified ND plugs and have never have any problems with them; a set very easily lasts more than 10,000 miles. A few years ago I bought 4 packs of 10 (40 spark plugs) from eBay for $12 with free delivery! That's enough plugs to last beyond my lifetime. :laugh: I would look at using the specified ND or NGK plugs since they work perfectly fine. Ed

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I agree, & I feel like I get better performance from the NDs then the NGKs
Pete

1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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29 Sep 2015 16:04 - 29 Sep 2015 16:07 #692552 by Wyliecoyote
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where can u get the nd plugs?
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29 Sep 2015 16:17 - 29 Sep 2015 16:19 #692553 by 650ed
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ND is the name that was adopted by Nippondenso years ago. They now just use the name Denso. If you look in your Kawasaki Service Manual you will see they recommend either ND spark plugs or NGK spark plugs. The manual for your specific bike will show exactly which plugs to use. I have used both brands and found the ND plugs work best in my bike. My KZ650-C1 uses ND W22ES-U plugs. Those are the "Hot-U" plugs with the "U" shaped ground electrode. Different KZ engines use different model plugs, so check the manual for the correct ones for your bike.

Many places sell them. Check online or local bike shops. You might even find a great deal on eBay. Ed

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30 Sep 2015 08:21 #692609 by pete greek1
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Wyliecoyote wrote: where can u get the nd plugs?

The Auto Zone by me sells them, try there
Pete

1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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30 Sep 2015 08:58 - 30 Sep 2015 08:58 #692616 by pete greek1
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Any engine that takes the NGK B8ES plugs also take the ND W22ES-U plugs
my 1980 LTD 1000 uses the same plugs as 650ed's KZ 650
Pete

1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!
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30 Sep 2015 09:35 #692621 by 650ed
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pete greek1 wrote: Any engine that takes the NGK B8ES plugs also take the ND W22ES-U plugs
my 1980 LTD 1000 uses the same plugs as 650ed's KZ 650
Pete


There may be a bit of confusion on this one.

The NGK B8ES plugs are the same heat range as the ND W24ES-U plugs. These plugs are one heat range colder than the plugs below.

The NGK B7ES plugs are the same heat range as the ND W22ES-U plugs.

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