Problem with Aluminum Cam End Plug, Won't Fit

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12 Jul 2015 18:58 - 12 Jul 2015 19:08 #680609 by 79MKII
I've got new aluminum cam end plugs and they won't fit the right side of my cylinder head ('78 KZ1000 A). I measured the casting thickness of the head at the cam plug area:
LH side = .0245"
RH side = .0275"
Aluminum cam end plugs are .0265" inside width (lip on both sides)
The cylinder head casting must be slightly off center. The original rubber plugs fit fine since there is a lip on only one side.
So now I'm wondering if any specific brand of aluminum plug ends would be wide enough for this head? Anybody had this problem before? It's a new one for me....
These are the plugs I bought and they are all exactly the same size:

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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12 Jul 2015 19:12 #680610 by peter1958

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12 Jul 2015 19:19 #680611 by kaw-a-holic
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I had the same problem on my 77 KZ1000 only i had just one that would not fit. It wouldn't seat as far as the other 3. They are Blue APE ones. I was hoping the one you got from Z! would be better, You may have just saved me some money.

Jon
1977 KZ1000a1
Mesa, AZ
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12 Jul 2015 19:22 #680612 by 79MKII

peter1958 wrote: Cant you just file a little off the casting on the right side?


Right side of the head? I could but I'm not crazy about that idea. Doesn't look like enough material to file the plug. I'm hoping to find another brand of plug that's a couple thousandths wider.

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250

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12 Jul 2015 19:24 #680613 by 79MKII

kaw-a-holic wrote: I had the same problem on my 77 KZ1000 only i had just one that would not fit. It wouldn't seat as far as the other 3. They are Blue APE ones. I was hoping the one you got from Z! would be better, You may have just saved me some money.

I have the blue APE ones on my MKII...they fit that head no problem but I never measured anything. Do you have a loose APE plug that you could measure?

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250

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12 Jul 2015 19:30 #680614 by kaw-a-holic
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I will go measure one of the apes. 0.2695 inside lips of plugs

Jon
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Mesa, AZ
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12 Jul 2015 19:39 #680615 by 79MKII

kaw-a-holic wrote: I will go measure one of the apes. 0.2695 inside lips of plugs


Cool, thanks a lot. Pretty much the same size as mine. There are a few others on the market but I'm not sure that any would be wide enough.

I'd like to file the head on the inside but no way to do it assembled. I'm afraid of what filing the outside would look like. I'll have to get a better look at the head and the plugs...hopefully can file a little somewhere.

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250

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21 Jul 2015 12:52 - 21 Jul 2015 13:01 #682035 by 79MKII

peter1958 wrote: Cant you just file a little off the casting on the right side?


I didn't realize the area around the cam end plugs was raised so much. That made it very easy to neatly file down that area to the proper size. All fixed....thanks!

Prep before filing:



Filed:



Filed, sanded, touched up - Finished:

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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21 Jul 2015 13:53 #682047 by DFIGPZ
common problem .

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