81 kz440 restoration.

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09 Jan 2015 02:33 - 09 Jan 2015 02:33 #658135 by miroci
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I just bought a 1981 kz440 with only 2300 miles been in storage most of the past 33 years. Has spark and compression. But I know nothing else about its condition other than it looks amazing. Never worked on a full size bike before. Any advice on where I should start on my restoration??? Only cost me $250 bucks so I'm not worried about putting money into it. At the price its well worth repairing any issues.
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09 Jan 2015 03:26 #658138 by daren1093251
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Clean the carbs, change the oil (and filter) change the break fluid (mine was sitting 20+ yrs and the oil wasn't as it should) change your spark plugs, if yours if LTD (shaft drive) change your shaft lube, if chain lube up your chain, try to spray all your electrical devils with some contact cleaner incase they started corroding after the years, take off the exhausts and header and check if theirs no mice nest or anything in there, check if the throttle comes back or stays stuck (had that issue lol) then put her up on a jack and start her up see if she drives through all gears if it bogs etc, then, if you believe it's needed check your valve clearance.

Good luck!

If you ain't first ; You're last

Current bikes :

2013 Kawasaki KLX250s
1984 Kawasaki KZ550 LTD (Project!)
1985 Honda Aero 85 (Rebuilding!)
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09 Jan 2015 07:48 #658165 by Patton
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Hello, miroci, and WELCOME to KZr! :cheer:

Proper cleaning of the carbs to return them to as-new condition is often challenging and sometimes exasperating. But we'll help you through it.

Tip -- keep the stock air-box and filter, because even perfect carbs don't perform well with any other system (such as pods) for filtering incoming air. And this is especially true for the KZ440, even when it was brand new.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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09 Jan 2015 08:09 #658168 by miroci
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Thanks man. So basicly everything that could possiboy be checked lol. Will tear hercdowb and start it asap. Got all winter to getvher purring!!

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09 Jan 2015 08:11 #658169 by miroci
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Thanks dude will keep that in mind. Hoping to keep my girl as stock as possible. Only thing I want to change from stock is headgaskets and manifold seals.

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09 Jan 2015 08:19 #658171 by 650ed
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I cannot imagine why you believe you need to rip the engine apart, but I definitely would NOT do that unless you discover some problem after running it for a while. At 2300 miles it is not even broken in, so all should be good inside the engine unless it was stored under water. Here's some general info that should help.

Many newbies and not so newbies run into or issues with their bikes which could be easily avoided with a little preparation or information. Here are a couple recommendations that I hope you will find useful.

Before riding your KZ you should take a little time to become familiar with it. Simple things like checking the oil, tire pressures, etc. are explained in the Kawasaki Owner's Manual. If you bike didn't come with one (they normally are in a little holder on the bottom of the seat) you can usually find one on eBay - be sure to get one for your exact year/model.


MANUAL

You really should consider buying the Kawasaki Factory Service Manual for your bike. The factory service manual provides instructions on the various maintenance procedures and schedules for your bike, procedures for diagnosing problems, proper torque values for the various fasteners (VERY IMPORTANT), and insight into how each system on your bike works even if you are not repairing that system. Studying the manual before you attempt performing service on your bike will impart an understanding of the system you are working on which will increase the odds of success.

The manuals usually are readily available for most models on eBay and other sources; but be sure to get one that has your specific year and model in it as there are differences between the various KZ650 models. I do not recommend Clymers, Haynes, or other aftermarket manuals as I have seen instances where they provide inaccurate advice. You may decide to use those to supplement the factory manual, but in my opinion they are not a suitable substitute. If you have trouble finding one for your model ask us to help.


TOOLS

WARNING! Do not even try to use Phillips screwdrivers on the Kawasaki cross head screws. Despite their appearance they are not Phillips screws. They are Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) screws. The tips of Phillips screwdrivers are too long & pointed to allow the 4 blades of the screwdriver to properly engage the screws, so when you apply force the screw head slots will deform and look like crap. The fact is that Phillips screws were deliberately designed to have the screwdriver bit "cam out." This was done to prevent production line assembly from over-tightening, stripping, or breaking the screws. JIS screws do not have this problem. A proper fitting JIS bit can tighten a JIS screw to and beyond the torque spec without camming out. Here's the good news - you can easily modify standard Phillips screwdriver tips to fit the JIS screws.

I have ground down the tips of DeWalt #2 and DeWalt #3 Phillips to make them fit JIS screws. The large crosshead screws on the cases take modified #3 bits (or genuine #3 JIS bits). To modify the DeWalt bits you need to grind the very tip a little, then test fit, then grind a little more and test fit, etc. until the bit no longer "rocks" back and forth in the screwhead. Picture 1 below shows how a DeWalt #3 bit fits the case screws of my KZ650 after being ground properly. The #2 DeWalt bits can be modified the same way to fit smaller JIS screws. Pictures 2 and 3 below shows DeWalt #2 and #3 modified bits.

I did find a place that sells authentic JIS bits. They don't list the #3 bit, but if you contact them they can provide the #3 JIS bits even though they are not listed on the website. These folks were very easy to work with, and the authentic bits do work great. Here's their site:

www.rjrcooltools.com/shop_item_detail.cfm?subcat_ID=89

Pictures 4 & 5 below show a comparison between my home made modified bits with the authentic JIS bits.

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Before reaching for that wrench or ratchet consider the following. The bolts are steel, but your engine and front forks are aluminum. The bolts are much tougher than the aluminum and if over tightened will strip the aluminum threads. Although these can be repaired, preventing damage by applying proper torque will save you grief, time, and money. Tightening fasteners properly requires torque wrenches. Various vendors, including Snap-on, CDI, Sears, etc., market torque wrenches. The two most popular types are the bar type and micrometer type. Either will work, but the micrometer type is a bit easier to use, especially if you are tightening several fasteners with the same torque - such as cylinder head covers. You will need a torque wrench calibrated in INCH POUNDS for many of the bolts. You will also need a torque wrench calibrated in FOOT POUNDS for the larger bolts. Don't try to use the foot pounds wrench on the smaller bolts as it will not be sensitive enough at low torque settings to provide accurate torque. There are many fasteners that require low torque. These include such things as 6mm oil pan bolts, cylinder head cover bolts, etc. for which the torque in 61-78 inch pounds. These low torque bolts require a wrench that is accurate at low settings and this wrench should be graduated in inch pounds. In addition, there are numerous high torque fasteners such as the front axle nuts (51 - 65 foot pounds) or swing arm pivot shaft nuts (58 - 87 foot pounds). These require a wrench that is accurate at higher settings; this wrench should be graduated in foot pounds. Using the proper torque wrenches to correctly tighten fasteners will help prevent damage and contribute to a safe bike. The Kawasaki Service Manual will list the various torque specs for the bolts. I suggest you get the manual before buying the torque wrenches so you can decide which wrenches best meet the torque specs.

Consider buying a can of Kroil penetrating oil and use it to soak stubborn fasteners for a couple days before trying to loosen them. Remember, the original screws and bolts were installed on your bike when Jimmy Carter was President, so many of them may be hard to remove. Kroil can be bought online, at guns shows, and at some other venues.


MOTOR OIL
The ingredients in oils have changed over the years. For example, today's Castrol GTX oil (and pretty much all other AUTOMOBILE oil) is not the same as it was in the 1980's. Back then it worked great in KZ bikes. But, things have changed. Early AUTOMOBILE oils contained zinc phosphorus compounds (ZDDP) to protect engine components from metal to metal contact. This was good for engines, but it was found to be destructive to catalytic converters. Consequently, in AUTOMOBILE oils ZDDP was virtually eliminated and replaced with different chemistry generically referred to as "Friction Modifiers." These work fine and offer good protection for normal AUTOMOBILE engines. However, today's AUTOMOBILE oil "Friction Modifiers" are destructive to wet clutches. KZ bikes (and many other brands) have wet clutches. As a result of these oil chemistry changes a distinction needed to be made between those oils which are suitable for wet clutches and those which are not. That distinction was documented by the Japanese Engine Oil Standards Implementation Panel (JASO). JASO developed a number of different oil specifications for different applications. The specifications that apply to 4 stroke motorcycles fall under the "4T Specifications." Within the 4T specifications the JASO MA class oils are specifically formulated for 4 stroke motorcycles with wet clutches.

There are synthetic, semi-synthetic, and non-synthetic oils that meet the JASO-MA standard and any of them will work ok. However, using oils that are not designated as meeting the JASO-MA standard is destructive to KZ clutches.

Good luck with your bike. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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09 Jan 2015 20:33 #658219 by miroci
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Thanks for the advice 650ed. Didnt mean actually tear it down. Just removing chain wheels fork and other external parts to clean and repack all the bearing. Then dumping and flushing all fluids.

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09 Jan 2015 20:43 #658221 by miroci
Replied by miroci on topic 81 kz440 restoration.
There is a shop down the road here that sells zddp oil. Will make sure I pick that up. Thank god I live close to a vintage bike shop. (Half a block from my house). Will be reading over your advice a couple more times to make sure it all sinks in. Your a life saver 650ed.

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