How? Base gasket on kz1000J

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02 Dec 2014 08:24 #655147 by barney
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I've heard differing opinions on how to install a new base gasket. Install dry on a clean flat surface or with threebond or ?

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02 Dec 2014 09:06 #655155 by Mcdroid
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I have always used a silicone-based sealant like three-bond.

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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02 Dec 2014 09:18 #655159 by !Seymore
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Michael... on one side or both? ...and if one side, does it matter which?

C.
79' KZ650-D2 [fsm] (Max)
83' KZ750-F1 LTD [clymers] (Kay)
82' KZ1100-D1 Specter (another project)
78' KZ650-B2a (J&H, A Project)
91' KZ1000-P (P = parts)

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02 Dec 2014 10:28 #655165 by Mcdroid
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I butter both sides...like my waffles.

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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02 Dec 2014 11:20 #655169 by PLUMMEN
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Copper coat sprayed on both sides. :)

Still recovering,some days are better than others.

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02 Dec 2014 23:52 - 02 Dec 2014 23:56 #655219 by zed1015
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Grease both sides.
This allows the gasket to settle evenly when compressed and seals the surface against the wick effect which afflicts some gasket materials causing oil seepage.
Also any grease that may get pushed out internally when the top end is tightened will mix harmlessly with the oil and not block any oil ways which is the risk when using silicone etc .

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03 Dec 2014 04:57 #655224 by KZJOE900
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I took zed1015 suggestion when I did mine, Used water proof grease on both sides and I haven't had any trouble in the two years its been on there. I also used his suggestion on putting heat shrink over the cylinder studs. That was a nice touch as well. Thanks zed1015!

Current project 76 KZ900 (This was a Vetter model)
76 KZ900
81 XJ550H SECA (Current Project)
82 XJ550R SECA
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86 FJ1200
74 Z1900
72 CB450

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03 Dec 2014 06:33 #655232 by barney
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Whats this about heat shrink on the studs Joe ?

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03 Dec 2014 06:51 - 03 Dec 2014 06:57 #655234 by KZJOE900
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barney wrote: Whats this about heat shrink on the studs Joe ?


After removing my top end with some painstaking gasket and stud cleaning process, I labored on find a the best method to avoid the pain the next time I take things apart. I settled on zed1015's methods for the base gasket and also did the heat shrink trick on the studs. Here is his posting on the heat shrink topic:

www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/395445...nows?start=60#550418

I'm hoping when it comes time for the first overbore (which it really needs already), the base gasket will come off clean and the studs will also be easier to deal with (can always just put fresh heat shrink). zed1015 indicated that the grease prompts ease of the gasket removal process. He's done enough of these engines to know.

Current project 76 KZ900 (This was a Vetter model)
76 KZ900
81 XJ550H SECA (Current Project)
82 XJ550R SECA
Past:
86 FJ1200
74 Z1900
72 CB450
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03 Dec 2014 09:21 - 03 Dec 2014 09:23 #655245 by baldy110
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I have been using spray on copper coat for years on the base gaskets. I spray both sides and install. When I have to take the cylinders off again years later the gasket comes off cleanly no clean up needed. I never had any leaks using this stuff.
Grease also works good. Back in the day on the early Honda 750 fours I used spray paint on the base gaskets to seal them. Trouble with that is the gaskets were a bitch to get off but that method did seal the ones that had oil leakage problems.
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03 Dec 2014 09:37 #655246 by KZJOE900
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baldy110 wrote: I have been using spray on copper coat for years on the base gaskets. I spray both sides and install. When I have to take the cylinders off again years later the gasket comes off cleanly no clean up needed. I never had any leaks using this stuff.
Grease also works good. Back in the day on the early Honda 750 fours I used spray paint on the base gaskets to seal them. Trouble with that is the gaskets were a bitch to get off but that method did seal the ones that had oil leakage problems.


I applied copper coat spray as well to other areas (oil pan gasket, stator cover gasket, reused old valve cover gaset). All with perfect results so far. I used it in order to try it out and see well it seals and aftewards comes off when the time comes , From your experiences, it looks like I should have an easy time getting these gaskets off in the future. I hate cleaning old cooked on gaskets.

Current project 76 KZ900 (This was a Vetter model)
76 KZ900
81 XJ550H SECA (Current Project)
82 XJ550R SECA
Past:
86 FJ1200
74 Z1900
72 CB450

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03 Dec 2014 09:57 #655248 by KZB2 650
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I'm having very good luck so far with the copper coat too and it really helped keeping it in place too.

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.

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