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Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400?
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28 Sep 2014 13:57 #649040
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1982 Honda XL125S
1972 Yamaha TX750 (CB750 engine)
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400? was created by magruder13
Hey all, it's a 1976 KZ400D (as the title says) but the VIN on the engine does not match. Did they match back then? On the neck it's K4-520764, and the engine is K4E 069595. This confuses me because from what I can find, there was no such thing as a KZ400E model, so that's ruled out.
I wasn't sure where to post this, so I put it here. Please redirect me if needed.
I wasn't sure where to post this, so I put it here. Please redirect me if needed.
1982 Honda XL125S
1972 Yamaha TX750 (CB750 engine)
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
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28 Sep 2014 14:02 #649042
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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The engines and frame (VIN) very rarely match on a KZ. The only time I have seen one match was on a bike that was built the first day the model was introduced. After that they get out of sync very quickly. Also, the letter in the engine code doesn't necessarily correspond to the letter in the VIN. Ed
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28 Sep 2014 15:17 #649048
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Replied by martin_csr on topic Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400?
CycleChaos.com has the engine & frame number info for many Kawasaki models.
Zedder.com is another place to check.
Zedder.com is another place to check.
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28 Sep 2014 18:06 #649069
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1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
Replied by Tyrell Corp on topic Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400?
Yes, this 'matching numbers' thing is a myth on most zeds.
My GPz550 frame 000022 had 000029 motor, higher up in the numbers the variance increases...that is assuming you still have the original motor in there.
My GPz550 frame 000022 had 000029 motor, higher up in the numbers the variance increases...that is assuming you still have the original motor in there.
1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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30 Sep 2014 10:30 #649200
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1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Replied by Kidkawie on topic Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400?
If those numbers are the same as the Z1's then you do not have a matching engine/frame. The acceptible difference (with Z1's anyway) is around 200-ish between the frame and the engine to be considered "matching numbers"
Your bike is way off. I would guess the used an earlier replacement case which would be numerically lower. Or someone swapped engines.
Your bike is way off. I would guess the used an earlier replacement case which would be numerically lower. Or someone swapped engines.
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30 Sep 2014 13:05 - 30 Sep 2014 13:06 #649218
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Replied by 650ed on topic Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400?
I don't think your bike is a 1976 model. It probably is a 1977 model. Titles are often wrong. Does your steering neck still have the label that shows the build date? Ed
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30 Sep 2014 14:39 #649235
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my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
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Replied by floivanus on topic Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400?
The E in the engine number just denotes that its the um... Engine number.
Just like on the Z1
Z1F- frame number
Z1E - engine number
And no, engine numbers usually dont match but would be right. My bikes are all way off. Many have engines that 'arent right' because the factory changed them or they were defective and changed out.
Just like on the Z1
Z1F- frame number
Z1E - engine number
And no, engine numbers usually dont match but would be right. My bikes are all way off. Many have engines that 'arent right' because the factory changed them or they were defective and changed out.
my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
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30 Sep 2014 15:04 #649238
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Replied by 650ed on topic Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400?
Sometimes the numbers are way off because more than one model in the same year used the same engines, and Kawasaki did not start another sequence of engine numbers for the second model. As an example - the 1977 KZ650-B1 and KZ650-C1 all use the same engines and there is only one sequence of engine numbers. So my KZ650-C1 which has a VIN (frame) number lower than 2,000 came with an engine with a number greater than 24,000. In the case of the KZ650-C1 bikes they all have engine numbers many thousands higher than the VIN because the C1 model was introduced later in the model year than the B1. Ed
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07 Oct 2014 13:09 #649985
by magruder13
1982 Honda XL125S
1972 Yamaha TX750 (CB750 engine)
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
Replied by magruder13 on topic Engine VIN number does not match? KZ400?
The carb/airbox match a 1976, the steering neck does have the numbers but I don't have them right now (at work).
1982 Honda XL125S
1972 Yamaha TX750 (CB750 engine)
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
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