kz 1100 cylinder boring/honing

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08 Sep 2014 09:21 #646687 by redsilver2121
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I rember reading that the walls are very hard steel any problems with longevity with a 1170?
I do live beside a local drag strip 1/4th mile,
im guessing a 1100 will run high 11s? maby a 12s?

and on the oil cooler, yes to all lol... what size / where do buy where do I get the main/return lines...

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08 Sep 2014 10:03 #646692 by kaw-a-holic
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redsilver2121 wrote: really a service manual can tell me the quality of a set of pistons I didn't know that...
and don't worry motor head u tried the best you could from your limited knowledge to help even if the question was about a set of pistons that still remain unknown at least my original question was answered from some one here...........


To bad you got off to a bad start with Motorhead, he has probably forgot more information about these old bike then you and I will ever know. A service manual is suggested to everyone that comes here as they are a great source of information on maintenance and rebuilding of KZ/GPzs. I don't have an 1100 so I can't help you there. I did buy a gasket kit for my 1000 from the eBay seller you have listed for the over sized pistons and I'm not impressed. They are what you pay for, cheap. The gaskets are very thin. I bought NOS head gaskets and base gasket and there is a BIG difference in quality. When I do my big bore kit, I personally will not use anything but Wiseco. I have invested to much time and money on the bike now to cheap out on some of the most important parts of the bike. If a cheap piston pin goes......... makes me :sick: to think about the damage it would do to the bike and possibly myself. I ride my bike hard and like to know that it handle what I throw at it. Just my .02, take it or leave it. B)

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08 Sep 2014 10:49 - 08 Sep 2014 10:54 #646702 by 650ed
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redsilver2121 wrote: any other person besides just get a service manual.... how about some nice help with the pistons that no one seems to know about.....


You asked a question and were given an excellent answer. As MOTORHEAD recommended - You SHOULD buy a Kawasaki Service Manual. Yes, it in fact DOES answer your questions about the max you can bore cylinders, etc. It's a shame you were so quick to dismiss good advice and got snippy about it when the advice was given in good faith. Ed

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08 Sep 2014 14:26 - 08 Sep 2014 14:27 #646728 by redsilver2121
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didn't dismiss good advice, just asked questions that wernt covered by the service manual *ok piston gap was..*
but was for my others IE piston sets, max bore, o look a oil cooler info / installation heating issues... that's not covered by the service manual...
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08 Sep 2014 16:16 #646742 by 650ed
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Assuming you have Kawasaki Service Manual - look again. You will find a table that shows the cylinder inside diameter service limit. Ed

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08 Sep 2014 17:24 #646751 by TexasKZ
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I seem to remember some discussion threads, with copious pictures, around here about mounting an oil cooler. I suppose a person could also look in the factory service manual to see how the factory installed them, but I guess that wouldn't be very helpful.

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08 Sep 2014 20:24 #646782 by redsilver2121
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ya I suppose that might be helpful, I do recall in 71-76 they had them for the 650 and the z1, most bikes just mount them to the front frame, I would love to see how the factory did it if only said factory still was in use :(

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08 Sep 2014 20:47 #646784 by Dr. Gamma
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Just look up a 1981/1984 GPz1100 oil cooler, lines, and junction block. The GPz1100 and a KZ1100 are similar cases, so the GPz1100 junction block and lines should bolt up to your cases.

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08 Sep 2014 20:56 #646786 by TexasKZ
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I believe the 1000R also came with one.

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09 Sep 2014 00:11 #646798 by redsilver2121
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what year is the R from? and how many packages did they make lol, I know the CSR *crome spoke rims* the chain / shaft models and the ever famous police bikes

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09 Sep 2014 05:35 #646809 by TexasKZ
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I believe the 1000R (ELR) was made in 82-83 only. There was also the standard model, plus CSR, LTD, GPZ, shaftie and police, and, MK II, and ..........

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09 Sep 2014 07:51 #646824 by steell
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redsilver2121 wrote: I rember reading that the walls are very hard steel


I don't know where you read that, but that info is wrong.
I've yet to see a liner that is not cast iron. And if the dimensions work out right, you can even ditch the liners and have the aluminum cylinder coated with Nikasil. I know a fellow that did that with a750 twin.

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