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83 KZ1100 Ltd Spark plug port question
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11 Jul 2014 15:59 #639743
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83 KZ1100 Ltd Spark plug port question was created by rarewolf
Hey all. New rider here with some questions. Recently bought an 83 kz1100 ltd and ran into a snag. The threading on the #4 spark plug hole is shot. Would a heli-coil be a good fix? If so, would I need to remove the cylinder head in order to fix it? Really hoping I don't have to.
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11 Jul 2014 16:26 - 11 Jul 2014 16:26 #639746
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Time-serts are better. You may want to read all the way through the link below as it contains related information. Ed
www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/594147-an...?limitstart=0#634081
www.timesert.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/594147-an...?limitstart=0#634081
www.timesert.com/
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11 Jul 2014 17:18 #639751
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Thanks. Can you tell me exactly what size I would need?
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12 Jul 2014 06:44 - 12 Jul 2014 06:46 #639807
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Hello, rarewolf, and WELCOME to KZr!
Are the threads completely stripped out so that there's no possibility of re-tapping the existing hole?
Or is it more a matter of the hole being cross-threaded?
Where cross-threading makes it virtually impossible to align re-cutting from top of the hole, there's a "reverse tap" tool available that starts with the good threads at the bottom of the hole, whereby the tap remains aligned when re-cutting upward through the cross-threads.
The reverse tap tool may be used without removing the engine head.
With the engine head removed, a normal re-cutting tap may be used beginning at the deep end (piston side) of the hole.
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Replied by Patton on topic 83 KZ1100 Ltd Spark plug port question
rarewolf wrote: Hey all. New rider here with some questions. Recently bought an 83 kz1100 ltd and ran into a snag. The threading on the #4 spark plug hole is shot. Would a heli-coil be a good fix? If so, would I need to remove the cylinder head in order to fix it? Really hoping I don't have to.
Hello, rarewolf, and WELCOME to KZr!
Are the threads completely stripped out so that there's no possibility of re-tapping the existing hole?
Or is it more a matter of the hole being cross-threaded?
Where cross-threading makes it virtually impossible to align re-cutting from top of the hole, there's a "reverse tap" tool available that starts with the good threads at the bottom of the hole, whereby the tap remains aligned when re-cutting upward through the cross-threads.
The reverse tap tool may be used without removing the engine head.
With the engine head removed, a normal re-cutting tap may be used beginning at the deep end (piston side) of the hole.
Good Fortune!
1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
Last edit: 12 Jul 2014 06:46 by Patton.
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17 Jul 2014 19:40 #640441
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The threads aren't quite completely stripped all the way through, but they're pretty badly stripped at the top of the hole. This bike sat unused and neglected for I don't know how many years. I'd wager the plugs that were in it when I bought it had been there for over 10 years. I've looked into Time-Serts and I think I'm going to go with that option.
Thanks for the reply!
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06 Aug 2014 18:41 #642970
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Update.
Time-Serts are hella expensive. Went with the Auto-Zone equivalent (I know, I know...) and it worked like a charm. Thanks for all the help!!
Time-Serts are hella expensive. Went with the Auto-Zone equivalent (I know, I know...) and it worked like a charm. Thanks for all the help!!
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