Adjusting cam clearance on the bench

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22 May 2014 13:38 #633481 by tommyboah
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i have my KZ1000 top sitting on the bench with new valves in it. I am trying to adjust the valve clearance on the bench without installing the top (just to make sure everything is right with the stem heights. etc). I have installed one of the cam shafts, but I am not able to turn them by hand in order to line the lobe up to do the clearance check. Is this not possible, or is there some ultimate trick to do this? :blush:

Thanks.

.Tommyboy

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22 May 2014 13:52 #633487 by tommyboah
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Never mind, I got it turning by using a flathead screw driver and bending on a tooth on the sprocket. Seem to work nicely.

.Tommyboy

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22 May 2014 19:16 #633566 by PLUMMEN
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Make sure to recheck clearances after torqueing head down on motor. :)

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23 May 2014 05:13 #633607 by tommyboah
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PLUMMEN wrote: Make sure to recheck clearances after torqueing head down on motor. :)


Yep, will do B)

Thanks.

.Tommyboy

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23 May 2014 05:58 #633611 by KZB2 650
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Make sure you have the head elevated so the valves don't hit the work bench and bend a valve too. Ever since Steele gave me that advice I've wondered if I would have done it.

My clearance stayed very close ...... two opened up a thousandth and 3 stayed the same with the other 4 loosing or gaining only a half a thou.

Never thought of rotating the cams either ..... I removed em and put em back in for each valve ...... glad I installed heli coils in all 16 first. :P

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.

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23 May 2014 07:34 #633629 by slayer61
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tommyboah wrote: i have my KZ1000 top sitting on the bench with new valves in it. I am trying to adjust the valve clearance on the bench without installing the top (just to make sure everything is right with the stem heights. etc). I have installed one of the cam shafts, but I am not able to turn them by hand in order to line the lobe up to do the clearance check. Is this not possible, or is there some ultimate trick to do this? :blush:

Thanks.


My motor guy has a set of VERY light valve springs that he uses in such an application, then changes them out for the final install. ;)

Don't be ridiculous! It's only a flesh wound!

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23 May 2014 09:19 #633643 by baldy110
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PLUMMEN wrote: Make sure to recheck clearances after torqueing head down on motor. :)


Why?

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23 May 2014 16:00 #633686 by zukdave
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I'm with baldy on this one.
I think if the clearance change's from torqueing the head
some thing ain't flat

1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.

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23 May 2014 17:13 #633693 by PLUMMEN
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It was beaten into my head years ago by a very wise man from Oklahoma city back in the 80s ,went by the name of Sid Pogue.
Id say its a safe bet that Sid has forgotten more about Kawasaki cylinder heads than most of us could ever wish to know.
If you ever get the chance to see how much the bores in a cast iron chevy smallblock distort when a torque plate is bolted down onto it before honing,youll gain a great deal of respect for how much an aluminum cylinder can move when you crank the studs down on it. :laugh:

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23 May 2014 18:01 #633700 by Dr. Gamma
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100% agree.

I always used to shim my heads on the bench. Then assemble top end of motor.

Used to get at least one valve where the clearance changed after assembly.

I am only talking 1 or 2 thousands at most, but it changed!!!

1972 H2 750 Cafe Racer built in 1974.
1976 KH400 Production Road Racer.
1979 Kz1000 MK. II Old AMA/WERA Superbike.
1986 RG500G 2 stroke terror.
1986 GSXR750RG The one with the clutch that rattles!

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24 May 2014 03:48 #633740 by LarryC
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Dr. Gamma wrote: 100% agree.

I always used to shim my heads on the bench. Then assemble top end of motor.

Used to get at least one valve where the clearance changed after assembly.

I am only talking 1 or 2 thousands at most, but it changed!!!


Yep...it can happen. The head is just a big chunk of aluminum and it flexes.

Larry C.
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