1977 frame w\ 1980 ltd driveline

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15 Jan 2014 13:36 #618742 by wolfey
1977 frame w\ 1980 ltd driveline was created by wolfey
i have found my frame on a 1980 kz 1000b ltd is twisted . i found a 1977 with a beginning vin kt00a looks very close only thing different thats obvious is the way the rear peg brackets are. what i am asking is will every thing bolt on or is it a lot of headaches

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15 Jan 2014 13:39 #618744 by sbc1320
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From what I understand 76-80 is pretty much the same with minor changes. So yes it will bolt together.

1980 KZ1000 LTD-B4(MK II engine) - Progressive suspension, MTC pistons, Dynojet Stage III, all wear items replaced, WFO paint scheme(1978), etc..

Past bikes- 2 1976 Kz900's, 5 1975-76 Honda CB750's, Honda 500 -4, Honda 250, Honda 125, Honda 100, Suzuki RM 250, Honda XL350, Kawasaki KLR 650, etc..
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15 Jan 2014 15:19 #618757 by roy-b-boy-b
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Make sure the frame has a brake pedal.

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000

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15 Jan 2014 18:36 #618772 by cpmaynard1980
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Thanks for asking this question. I was just about to ask basically the same thing. I have a 77 frame and i just got a 79 police bike I plan on pulling the motor to build my 77.

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16 Jan 2014 06:32 #618815 by Cynjut
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I have '77 and '82 KZ1000s. The places that are going to jam you are are all 'external' to the block.
- The triple tree areas are different. I discovered this while trying to install a Vetter fairing.
- The carbs are different, so the placement of the fuel petcock has to change.
- The tank mounts are totally different.
- The seat mounts are close, but may require some detailed engineering.
- The side cover mounts are a little different.
- The tail stock and fender mounts are a little different.
- The passenger pegs on the newer frames are on a 'bolt on' spacer. The old frame has fixed foot peg mounts.
- I might be mis-remembering this, but it seems to me that the swing are pivot width is a little different (240mm vs 230mm).

The frame has some additional gussets and the frame tubes on the top are a little bigger.

1977 KZ-1000 A1
1982 KZ-1000 M2 Frankenbike

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16 Jan 2014 06:53 #618819 by sbc1320
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Cynjut wrote: I have '77 and '82 KZ1000s.
- The seat mounts are close, but may require some detailed engineering.
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I bought and put a 76 reproduction seat on my 80 and it fit's like it's supposed to. You are talking 77 and 82, anything after 80 is different and his is an 80 model.

1980 KZ1000 LTD-B4(MK II engine) - Progressive suspension, MTC pistons, Dynojet Stage III, all wear items replaced, WFO paint scheme(1978), etc..

Past bikes- 2 1976 Kz900's, 5 1975-76 Honda CB750's, Honda 500 -4, Honda 250, Honda 125, Honda 100, Suzuki RM 250, Honda XL350, Kawasaki KLR 650, etc..

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17 Jan 2014 08:55 #618957 by Cynjut
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The problem I ran into (I swapped the seats by accident) was the latch loop. On the old bike it was adjusted different than on the new bike. It seems to me (and it's been a while) that there was also a pivot lock on one and a spring operated spring latch to hold it open on the other.

It wasn't a big issue and it all more or less fit, but it was enough that I realized I swapped the seats.

It was all in the details, which was entirely the point I was trying to make.

1977 KZ-1000 A1
1982 KZ-1000 M2 Frankenbike

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17 Jan 2014 09:18 #618960 by sbc1320
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Cynjut wrote: The problem I ran into (I swapped the seats by accident) was the latch loop. On the old bike it was adjusted different than on the new bike. It seems to me (and it's been a while) that there was also a pivot lock on one and a spring operated spring latch to hold it open on the other.

It wasn't a big issue and it all more or less fit, but it was enough that I realized I swapped the seats.

It was all in the details, which was entirely the point I was trying to make.


Pre 76 might use the plunger style seat latch, but 76 to 80 share the same latch style U-bolt.

1980 KZ1000 LTD-B4(MK II engine) - Progressive suspension, MTC pistons, Dynojet Stage III, all wear items replaced, WFO paint scheme(1978), etc..

Past bikes- 2 1976 Kz900's, 5 1975-76 Honda CB750's, Honda 500 -4, Honda 250, Honda 125, Honda 100, Suzuki RM 250, Honda XL350, Kawasaki KLR 650, etc..

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