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16 Nov 2013 07:50 #613163
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1980 KZ1000 G w/carbs..
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1980 kz 1000 G jumps out of 2cd gear i was told it could be bad dogs or bent shifting fork. i split the cases and did not see any obvious problem. i have never done this before. could i be missing something ? any ideas would be helpful and appreciated.
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rlcarter
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16 Nov 2013 07:55 - 16 Nov 2013 10:16 #613165
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2nd gear dogs in tranny are rounded off.
quite possible that you will need to break engine completely down and spilt cases to get at tranny.
Common problem with KZ trans.
quite possible that you will need to break engine completely down and spilt cases to get at tranny.
Common problem with KZ trans.
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16 Nov 2013 08:01 #613166
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i have already done that did not see an obvious problem should the wear on the dogs be very noticeable .
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16 Nov 2013 11:15 #613177
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1980 LTD (changed over the years), 1979 LTD (being rebuilt), 1977 KZ turbo and various KZ's in various states of build. KLX110
Replied by racer54 on topic jumping out of 2cd gear
You would notice any rounding off of the dogs. Check the opposing slots in engaging gear to see of the slots have worn ramps. This is a well-known problem with these trans. 2nd gear is the trouble maker. Be sure the shift lever is postioned so that when you pull up on the lever you have enough leverage to pull it up far enough to get it fully into 2nd gear. I've seen this happen before.
1980 LTD (changed over the years), 1979 LTD (being rebuilt), 1977 KZ turbo and various KZ's in various states of build. KLX110
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16 Nov 2013 12:14 - 16 Nov 2013 12:15 #613179
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1981 KZ550C LTD
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Replied by nickleo373 on topic jumping out of 2cd gear
Make sure you're shifting up hard. A lot of these bikes will drop out of second and into neutral if you dont shift up with enough force
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16 Nov 2013 12:57 - 16 Nov 2013 13:24 #613185
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1 x 73 Z1 (Jaffa), 74 Z1A, 76 Z900-A4
1 x 73 Yamaha TX500 & 98 fzx250 Zeal
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Replied by Garn on topic jumping out of 2cd gear
Could be, the dogs/ slots on the gears are only slightly worn, however, the clearance (end-float) on the shaft with the offending gears is too much and allows the gears not to be firmly held together (dogs engaged). There is a spacer on the shaft in question may be left out or need larger one!
Unfortunately it requires a re-split of the crank-cases.
RegardZ.
PS .... Have a look at this, way back 15//1/11
www.kawariders.com.au/showthread.php?153...box-Trouble-z1/page2
Unfortunately it requires a re-split of the crank-cases.
RegardZ.
PS .... Have a look at this, way back 15//1/11
www.kawariders.com.au/showthread.php?153...box-Trouble-z1/page2
1 x 73 Z1 (Jaffa), 74 Z1A, 76 Z900-A4
1 x 73 Yamaha TX500 & 98 fzx250 Zeal
Sydney Australia
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17 Nov 2013 18:18 #613296
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very helpful info i will take a closer look at everything hopefully find something . you guys are great. another question. does the shifter drum have a history of failure ? thanks again...
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17 Nov 2013 18:27 #613301
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thanks for the info racer54 im gonna check closer and see what i find . still learning . hopefully i will find something
thanks have a great day.
thanks have a great day.
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17 Nov 2013 22:31 - 17 Nov 2013 22:39 #613320
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1 x 73 Z1 (Jaffa), 74 Z1A, 76 Z900-A4
1 x 73 Yamaha TX500 & 98 fzx250 Zeal
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Replied by Garn on topic jumping out of 2cd gear
There is one item I can think of that has a history of a failure, it is the boss that supports the lever shaft. it is part of the lower case casting... A real curse of a job, because when it is repaired with an alloy weld, it fills the space where a spring fits ( 3coil or later four coil).
Lets hope its not this one. I'm hoping it will be something simple.
.RegardZ.
Lets hope its not this one. I'm hoping it will be something simple.
.RegardZ.
1 x 73 Z1 (Jaffa), 74 Z1A, 76 Z900-A4
1 x 73 Yamaha TX500 & 98 fzx250 Zeal
Sydney Australia
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