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15 Aug 2013 09:10 #601535 by homert1
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Gentlemen.......I need assistance. I have recently purchased a DYNA S ignition for my 76 KZ900....(new coils/wires etc).installed in the bike and fired up immediately. THe bike ran awesome for a few weeks. After some time I lost spark on 2-3 cylinders!!!? After tracing my steps......checked and double checked, I determined the DYNA S to be the problem. I returned it to DYNATECH to be checked and they returned it saying there was nothing wrong with the module. I reinstalled the unit, double checked all connections, and still no spark on 2-3 cyls??? Am I missing something?? Any suggestions???

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15 Aug 2013 09:37 - 15 Aug 2013 09:47 #601537 by Motor Head
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Here is the link to their trouble shooting page. www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support...Manuals/DynaSTSG.pdf

I would have all 4 plugs out, then swap the primary coil wiring to see if the same side is dead or if it switches to 1-4. If it switches to 1-4, and the 2-3 now sparks, check for voltage at the offending side on the coil. Check the signal side for continuity from the Dyna S to the Coil,if all good then I'd say Bad Dyna S.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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15 Aug 2013 09:47 #601539 by homert1
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Thankyou for the link.........as you suggested.....I did this test initially and determined it was the bad module.......so I returned it to DYNATECH. They returned the module and indicated NO issues with the module but the problem remains??? That is why I'm so confused

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15 Aug 2013 11:47 - 15 Aug 2013 11:48 #601559 by loudhvx
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Swap small wires from 1-4 coil to the 2-3 coil. If 2-3 does not spark, then the 2-3 coil is bad.
(The motor will not run, wired this way, but you can check for spark.)
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15 Aug 2013 12:10 #601561 by homert1
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Thanks........purhcased new coils at same time I bought the ignition.....and I don't think they are the issue as I am not getting a signal from the Dyna module when I try to set the timing ( as instructed by Dynatech ) for 2-3 cyls!!? Next test is to check distance on 2-3 pickup on module to see how far ( if possible ) the module is away from the sensor? Dynatech claims any further than .040" and the unit will not pickup any signal.......it's worth a shot
Thanks for the help

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15 Aug 2013 16:00 - 15 Aug 2013 16:09 #601578 by bountyhunter
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and I don't think they are the issue as I am not getting a signal from the Dyna module when I try to set the timing ( as instructed by Dynatech ) for 2-3 cyls!!?

Wonder if you have a bad wire or connector in the circuitry going to the hall effect sensors.

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15 Aug 2013 16:42 #601580 by homert1
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I had the unit checked by Dynatech and they say no issue with the unit or wiring harness.
When I get time I'm going to check all connections again.

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15 Aug 2013 19:18 #601601 by Old Man Rock
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Verify coil signal or power is not touching/arching to the frame on the mounts....

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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16 Aug 2013 09:18 #601662 by homert1
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OMR.......thanks. I am going to take the weekend and check all connections. Connections....coils.......grounds etc and see if I can get this thing corrected. I appreciate the help. Hopefully I can get this ironed out before the snow flies!!!.......being in Canada and all!!!EH

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16 Aug 2013 09:53 #601667 by Motor Head
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Old Man Rock wrote: Verify coil signal or power is not touching/arching to the frame on the mounts....

While the mounting is an issue with these Dyna coils, I see most have been blowing a fuse when it is shorting.
There are posts where the cure has been a Nylon Spacer in place of the Metal spacer for the screw/ bolt on the end of the coil with the terminals. Ace Hardware store has a selection.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...

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16 Aug 2013 11:41 #601683 by homert1
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Thanks Motor Head..........that is another place I can check. Running out of options!!!

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16 Aug 2013 14:03 #601707 by Old Man Rock
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"lost spark on 2-3 cylinders!"..... Blown Fuse on 2/3 only... :S

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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