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27 Jul 2013 12:31 #598547 by Kidkawie
Replied by Kidkawie on topic No power above 6000rpm
Sounds like you're trying to Band aid an electrical problem. My Z1 will not rev out with a bad battery, low voltage. Leave the jetting alone and clean all your electrical connections. You cant jet a broken engine, bad ignition, etc.

1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125

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27 Jul 2013 13:00 #598556 by koolaid_kid
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I agree. I missed the part that it did it before he rejetted. The electrics may be O.K., but you should never start making changes until the engine is solid to begin with.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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27 Jul 2013 13:29 #598557 by 650ed
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koolaid_kid wrote: ........ but you should never start making changes until the engine is solid to begin with.


+1 !!!!!!!!!! Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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27 Jul 2013 13:32 #598558 by Jrbrownie00
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As naive as it sounds I thought because of the exhaust, which was on it when I bought it, it would be a good idea to jet. Adding the pods was a guilty pleasure. I'm leaning toward the battery not being as new as the previous owner said. Any suggestions for a replacement if it does turn out to be he battery? I'd love to get a smaller gel battery if possible anyway.

82' kz750 ltd.

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27 Jul 2013 14:06 #598561 by les holt
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I done a dynojet kit to an 80's gs850 suzuki last year, cv carbs with just pods. The jets provided with the kit were way small to make it happy. I ended up going up 3 jet sizes to make it run well. It would run great up to about 5000-6000 and then sounded like it was on a rev limiter, pulled plugs and they looked sooty. Not saying it's your problem but worth a thought.

Les

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27 Jul 2013 14:13 - 27 Jul 2013 15:27 #598562 by koolaid_kid
Replied by koolaid_kid on topic No power above 6000rpm

Jrbrownie00 wrote: As naive as it sounds I thought because of the exhaust, which was on it when I bought it, it would be a good idea to jet. Adding the pods was a guilty pleasure. I'm leaning toward the battery not being as new as the previous owner said. Any suggestions for a replacement if it does turn out to be he battery? I'd love to get a smaller gel battery if possible anyway.

Don't worry, Jrbrownie00, how do you think we know? We have already walked the path, and learned from our mistakes.
If it turns out to be the battery, get an AGM battery; spillproof, delivered fully charged, last for years. It is the successor of the gel battery, which is now old technology. I run a MotoBatt, but there are lots of good brands out there.
Before you start spending money, though, you need to check everything out. If all the electrical connections check out, then you need to start testing your charging system and your ignition system. Always troubleshoot down to root cause before you go to the store and start handing out dollars.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.
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27 Jul 2013 15:26 #598571 by koolaid_kid
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les holt wrote: I done a dynojet kit to an 80's gs850 suzuki last year, cv carbs with just pods. The jets provided with the kit were way small to make it happy. I ended up going up 3 jet sizes to make it run well. It would run great up to about 5000-6000 and then sounded like it was on a rev limiter, pulled plugs and they looked sooty. Not saying it's your problem but worth a thought.

Les

The biggest thing to realize about their kits is that the mains are a "best guess". Luckily, they are cheap enough. I have a range of sizes so I can move up or down as required.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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27 Jul 2013 16:04 - 27 Jul 2013 16:05 #598574 by Patton
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Regarding battery condition --

Could consider having the battery load-tested in order to determine its condition.

Most stores that sell motor vehicle batteries will perform a free load-test, such as AutoZone, Walmart, etc.

Should prepare the battery for the test -- remove it from the bike, add water as required, and charge it overnight at 1~2 amps, so that the battery will be in its best possible condition when load-tested.

If desired, the specific gravity of each cell may also be checked (diy with an inexpensive floating balls eye-dropper test kit).

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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29 Jul 2013 10:30 #598877 by Jrbrownie00
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Alright so after countless hrs. of research it appears that my first step is going to be switching to the B7ES plug as 650ED suggested. Not saying it will solve all my problems but I believe it will be a solid start.

82' kz750 ltd.

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29 Jul 2013 22:15 #599000 by Jrbrownie00
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Tried the b7es, bingo. Pulls harder than ever. 650ed, your the man.

Voltage all seemed to checkout, didn't get a reading off the coil.

82' kz750 ltd.

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