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22 Jul 2013 19:04 #597751 by 771000LTD
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Greetings!





Found this on tear down when valves wouldn't hold fluid on Ex #1.No damage to piston but valve gets hung up.
Question:is this part of the forged head or is the bottom of the valve guide?
Cant see a circleclip on the top of the guide either. How do you replace these guides?

Thanks

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22 Jul 2013 19:30 #597758 by 771000LTD
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22 Jul 2013 19:46 #597762 by Garn
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Looks like a valve collet halve... Would have had to be dropped down the spark-plug hole? Or just accidentally left unnoticed in the combustion chamber. The end of the valve guide does look chewed up!
RegardZ.

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22 Jul 2013 20:02 #597765 by 771000LTD
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No this piece is broken in half cause the other half fell out when i was taping on the top of the guide. Dont have any experience with this so all is helpful.
If this the the bottom of the guide,how do i remove the guide it to replace?

stephen

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22 Jul 2013 20:37 #597769 by turboking
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771000LTD wrote: No this piece is broken in half cause the other half fell out when i was taping on the top of the guide. Dont have any experience with this so all is helpful.
If this the the bottom of the guide,how do i remove the guide it to replace?

stephen



head has to be heated in an oven and remove valve guide with an appropriate size drift or you can damage head by not heating :pinch: .....freeze new guide, heat head and install new guide with a drift till seated, get valve seat re cut to be concentric ......... get in pill(shim) range :pinch: re assemble......yer done :huh:

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22 Jul 2013 20:42 - 22 Jul 2013 20:43 #597777 by turboking
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guide is driven out on the port side :S ......... :unsure: if the valves got together (bent) that is what broke the guides .... check the intake guide for cracks also on that cylinder....... :pinch:

2005 Kawasaki mean streak
2000 325 H.P. mcXpress turbo Hayabusa
1979 kz 1000 mk II ATP turbo
1975 Z1 960 cc Mr. Turbo
1975 Z1 1428 big block ATP turbo
1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
1985 GS 1150E
1983 GS 1100E
1997 Suzuki Bandit 1200S
2001 Kawasaki EX 500 Ninja
1972 Honda cb750 (836cc turbo)
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22 Jul 2013 20:46 #597778 by turboking
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771000LTD wrote: Greetings!





Found this on tear down when valves wouldn't hold fluid on Ex #1.No damage to piston but valve gets hung up.
Question:is this part of the forged head or is the bottom of the valve guide?
Cant see a circleclip on the top of the guide either. How do you replace these guides?

Thanks

circlip for the guide is under the steel valve spring base...... :dry:

2005 Kawasaki mean streak
2000 325 H.P. mcXpress turbo Hayabusa
1979 kz 1000 mk II ATP turbo
1975 Z1 960 cc Mr. Turbo
1975 Z1 1428 big block ATP turbo
1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
1985 GS 1150E
1983 GS 1100E
1997 Suzuki Bandit 1200S
2001 Kawasaki EX 500 Ninja
1972 Honda cb750 (836cc turbo)
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24 Jul 2013 14:00 #598074 by savedrider
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Valve guide replacement is where you probably will want to consider having it done professionally. As already mentioned, once the guides are replaced, the valve seats will need to be recut. I guess it can all be done DIY, but paying for this service will probably yield a better result.

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