Rotor Removal Problems

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28 Jun 2013 19:50 #594272 by nivlac
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I am trying to remove the alternator rotor on my 83 kz1100 in order to replace the starter clutch parts. The Kaw Service manual says to use the special tool, which of course I don't have. Clymer says to remove the clutch cover and stuff a penny (US or Canadian is not specified HOYT) or a clean rag, folder several times, between the primary drive gear and the clutch ring gear. I have removed the clutch cover and am having a difficult time locating the parts/ position of the placement of said penny or folded rag. Can anyone help this novice?

1983 kz1100
1979 cb650

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28 Jun 2013 19:58 #594274 by CPhillips
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The gears you are looking for are the ones behind the clutch hub assembly.

You should be able to just put it in gear and have a friend hold the rear brake to keep the engine from turning so you can wrench it off.

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29 Jun 2013 09:15 #594319 by nivlac
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I'm having a real issue removing this bolt. The engine turns no matter what. Should I start looking for a factory service removal tool?

1983 kz1100
1979 cb650

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29 Jun 2013 09:34 #594321 by Patton
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For some more info,
click here > www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/399151-kz-porn

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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29 Jun 2013 11:42 #594332 by nivlac
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Lot of info. I sift through it. I'll probably need it. But my current problem is removal of the rotor bolt.

1983 kz1100
1979 cb650

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29 Jun 2013 12:08 #594334 by 650ed
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nivlac wrote: I'm having a real issue removing this bolt. The engine turns no matter what. Should I start looking for a factory service removal tool?


If you put the transmission in first gear and place a 2x2 (or other appropriate piece) between the spokes of the rear wheel (ONLY if it is an alloy wheel - not wire spokes) and swing arm in a fashion that prevents the rear wheel from turning, and then try to remove the bolt, does the engine still turn over? If so, you may have a secondary problem with your clutch. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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29 Jun 2013 12:11 #594335 by steell
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Whatever you have screwed into the rotor, make sure it's as tight as you can get it, then smack the end of it with a hammer with a sharp rap. You're not attempting to pull the rotor off, it's a taper fit so all you have to do is move the rotor .001" or so and it will fall off.

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29 Jun 2013 23:08 #594382 by Patton
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There's a bolt that goes through the flywheel and screws into the end of the crankshaft, which bolt holds the flywheel onto the crank shaft.

This diagram points out the mentioned bolt.





Questions -- is it this particular bolt that's difficult to loosen and remove by turning it counter-clockwise?
Is the crank shaft turning while attempting to remove the bolt?
If the rear brake is applied (or other measure taken to prevent the rear wheel from turning) while attempting to loosen the bolt, does the crank shaft turn even with the rear wheel locked in position?

If crankshaft movement is preventing loosening the bolt, while the rear wheel is locked in position, the clutch may be slipping for whatever reason, but perhaps a clutch push-rod adjustment might allow the clutch to fully engage.

Good Fortune!

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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30 Jun 2013 15:57 #594493 by steell
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nivlac wrote: Lot of info. I sift through it. I'll probably need it. But my current problem is removal of the rotor bolt.


I'll try and answer the question asked, this time :blush:

Do you have a hammer impact driver, the thing you use to loosen case screws? Most of those have a 3/8" socket drive visible after you pull off the screwdriver bit holder. Put the appropriate size 3/8" drive socket on there, and use the hammer impact to loosen the bolt. Be absolutely certain you are attempting to turn the bolt in the right direction, because you can actually break the bolt using this method, if you apply enough effort.

Hope that's more helpful :)



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