Header wrap Who has done it and how did it work ?

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Header wrap Who has done it and how did it work ?

14 Apr 2013 19:21
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Thinking of wrapping my exhaust header in a thermal wrap. Seen some nicely done pipes and it could be a good thing for a couple reasons.
My header primary pipes are getting a bit tired in the finish and This seems to me to be a good way to freshen up the look and function for a bargain price.
Looking for a black or silver tape which can live in the high temps of a turbocharged 1075 motor.
Not only should it look good but hoping to help lower air temps at the front of the motor to promote lower cylinder and head temps and lower the temps for the upcoming oiler cooler which will probably end up being mounted below the collector. Unlike on non turbo pipes I have alot of room for a cooler low, but still high enough to not hang below the engine where it could get beat up.

Anyone have any experiences to share ???

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Re: Header wrap Who has done it and how did it work ?

14 Apr 2013 19:25
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I know pictures can mislead, but your pipes look good. Wrapping them invites rust. Ed
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14 Apr 2013 19:33
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650ed wrote: I know pictures can mislead, but your pipes look good. Wrapping them invites rust. Ed
Thanks Ed
They do look good , but the primaries are getting rusty where they come together at the collector. Sending them out this year to a powder/ Ceramic coater is not in the budget this year and was looking for a affordable cure to buy me some time. I have heard pros and cons on the wrap holding moisture , But that seems to be a problem with bikes ridden in the rain that arent ridden till the pipes get a chance to boil off the water.
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Re: Header wrap Who has done it and how did it work ?

14 Apr 2013 19:56
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I am with Ed on this one you will be inviting rust issues I would live with it till you can send them out to be coated I have had excellent work done by Jet Hot I have been using there sterling treatment.
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Re: Header wrap Who has done it and how did it work ?

14 Apr 2013 20:08
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I hate to disagree, but as long as you seal the wrap properly, rust shouldn't be an issue.

I used copper, but there's some "Titanium" wrap that'd look great on your ride as long as you seal it with the right hi-temp clear.

It takes a little to get the knack of wrapping them properly, and the ends can be a pain in the ass to clamp properly without frayed edges, but it's not overly hard to do. There's plenty of how-to vids. I used black ss zips, so taping them off before sealing took a little bit of detail work with a utility knife, but totally worth the effort. If you're super-worried about rust, there's nothing saying you can't shoot a couple of coats of hi-temp rattelcan sealant before wrapping, too.

All in all, pretty gratifying upgrade if done right. Just take your time, use the right materials and have fun with it.
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Re: Header wrap Who has done it and how did it work ?

15 Apr 2013 10:09
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Hadnt heard of spraying the wrap with a clearcoat after installation. Interesting :huh:

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15 Apr 2013 19:07
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Thinking of wrapping my exhaust header in a thermal wrap. Seen some nicely done pipes and it could be a good thing for a couple reasons.
My header primary pipes are getting a bit tired in the finish and This seems to me to be a good way to freshen up the look and function for a bargain price.
Looking for a black or silver tape which can live in the high temps of a turbocharged 1075 motor.
Not only should it look good but hoping to help lower air temps at the front of the motor to promote lower cylinder and head temps and lower the temps for the upcoming oiler cooler which will probably end up being mounted below the collector. Unlike on non turbo pipes I have alot of room for a cooler low, but still high enough to not hang below the engine where it could get beat up.

Anyone have any experiences to share ???

I really like the wrap on mine. It was a real pane to do. A buddy of mine helped me out because j don't have a vise in my garage. I would recommend doing it on a vise. The tricky part is not having it get all twisted up as your doing it.
Another tip is to start from the top of the pipe where it meets up with the cylinder. This way you won't have a dust and grime collection area every time you make a wrap.

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Re: Header wrap Who has done it and how did it work ?

15 Apr 2013 20:52
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How long have you had it on , and has it stayed on tight ? What kind did you use and did you have to clear it as others have said? Did it cause any rusting ?

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15 Apr 2013 21:00
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good looking bike, turbo? I was going to find some header wrap and mash down my baffle stuffing. I am unsure about wrapping the headers and have never done it but my googling tells me it keeps the heat in the pipes.

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16 Apr 2013 13:59
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I did a white fiberglass header wrap on my bike that I got from ebay for like $20...spend the money and get good stuff! Mine unraveled in a matter of a month. It was a pain to install and needed to be soaked in water as you did it. It cut horribly and came with very thin stainless straps that didn't hold enough material.
I just bought some really nice titanium stuff that does not need water and seems to be much better quality for when I reassemble my bike. Also bought SS bands that are 1/2" wide so they will hold much better.
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Re: Header wrap Who has done it and how did it work ?

19 Apr 2013 19:56
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Street Fighter LTD wrote: How long have you had it on , and has it stayed on tight ? What kind did you use and did you have to clear it as others have said? Did it cause any rusting ?

Thanks for sharing
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It has stayed on great- never cleared it. I did powder coat my pipes before wrapping them to avoid the rust issue.
But I would tend to agree that your pipes do look very nice- I'm not sure I would wrap them.
Also, those right hair-pin turns that you have will be a bit difficult.
I didn't do mine for performance, I just liked the look of the wrap. It fits the style of my bike.
Hope this helps.
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