Got my shims measured

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19 Mar 2013 22:39 #577761 by Kitten Tooth
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Alrighty. I got the shims measured on my 1981 KZ1000LTD. Since cylinder 1 exhaust, cylinder 3 intake, and cylinder 4 exhaust were all tight i went ahead and pulled the shims. (couldnt afford a micrometer or shim changing tool until now).

So i got...

#1 exhaust measured- 2.751 and has the numbers 275 printed on it
#3 intake measured- 2.805 and has 280 printed on it
#4 exhaust measured- 2.856 (dont know what was printed on it)

What size shims should i order for this monster? its getting warm outside, im 18, and i got a woman that wants to ride on the back B) hahahaha

Thanks guys,
KT

1981 Kawasaki KZ1000-K LTD
1983 Suzuki GS300L-D
1982 Suzuki GS300L-Z sold:(
1976 KZ400D3
1973 Z900... I WISH

DO A BARREL ROLL!!

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19 Mar 2013 23:17 - 19 Mar 2013 23:19 #577768 by geobass
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This is what I did!

First went to ebay and bought a factory service manual.
Second I did a search on this forum for shim advice.
Third I read everything I could to understand tolerances and how to determine what shims could be swapped around and what shims needed to be bought.
Last edit: 19 Mar 2013 23:19 by geobass. Reason: I think she may be walking this summer!

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20 Mar 2013 00:35 #577782 by RonKZ650
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Good place to start is probably go down two sizes on each, so #1 a 265, #3 a 270, #4 a 275. You already have a 275 out of #1 for use in #4, so trade or order the 265 and 270 and remeasure is all you can do. It may take a couple tries.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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20 Mar 2013 01:00 #577787 by Kitten Tooth
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Awesome! I do have a clymer. Ill do what Ron said and put cylinder 1's shim in cylinder 4's and order the others.

Thanks guys,
KT

1981 Kawasaki KZ1000-K LTD
1983 Suzuki GS300L-D
1982 Suzuki GS300L-Z sold:(
1976 KZ400D3
1973 Z900... I WISH

DO A BARREL ROLL!!

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20 Mar 2013 07:24 - 20 Mar 2013 07:27 #577807 by Old Man Rock
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Tim....

You have to go through and measure all valve clearances with a feeler gauge. Then it's a matter of what size would be required to place all clearances to spec....

1973-1978 clearances from 0.05-0.10mm are acceptable.
1979/80 clearances 0.05-0.15mm are acceptable.

When you say tight, what values...?
Under .05mm (.002") then go a thinner size or two shim, possibly 3 sizes.
Manually rotate the crank (17mm nut) FULL 360 to fully seat the sim, release valve spring etc... & Re-measure your clearances after re-shiming.


1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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20 Mar 2013 09:17 #577814 by Kitten Tooth
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The cylinders i figured were tight got these measurements.

1- intake Exhaust
.003 .0025
good tight

2- intake Exhaust
.002 .005
good good

3- intake Exhaust
.0025 .005
bad good

4- intake Exhaust
.005 not even smallest gauge would fit
good BBAAAAADDD!!!!


hahahaha

Thanks guys,
KT

1981 Kawasaki KZ1000-K LTD
1983 Suzuki GS300L-D
1982 Suzuki GS300L-Z sold:(
1976 KZ400D3
1973 Z900... I WISH

DO A BARREL ROLL!!

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20 Mar 2013 09:17 #577815 by Kitten Tooth
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Well after it posted it kinda smooshed everything together but i hope you guys can read that.

1981 Kawasaki KZ1000-K LTD
1983 Suzuki GS300L-D
1982 Suzuki GS300L-Z sold:(
1976 KZ400D3
1973 Z900... I WISH

DO A BARREL ROLL!!

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05 Apr 2013 01:11 #580642 by Kitten Tooth
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Got them in today and all of them are in spec now B) Ordering the cam end caps tonight and i have a new valve cover gasket waiting in my parts.

1981 Kawasaki KZ1000-K LTD
1983 Suzuki GS300L-D
1982 Suzuki GS300L-Z sold:(
1976 KZ400D3
1973 Z900... I WISH

DO A BARREL ROLL!!

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05 Apr 2013 08:04 #580666 by Old Man Rock
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That A boy.... B) See wasn't that hard now was it and you will notice a difference.... ;)

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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05 Apr 2013 19:10 - 05 Apr 2013 19:12 #580756 by dbc92s10
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make sure that before your install your valve cover back on that you release your timing chain tensioner, if not when you removed the cover it extended to make up the clearance.an when you reinstall it, it will put to much pressure on the timing chain and cause excessive guide wear and maybe worse i know from experience :ohmy: good luck

81 ltd1000
1135 mtc 10.5/1
cavanaugh racing head
38.6/32 p&p
APE k410 cams
APE hardware and tensioner
84 gpz1100 trans
kerker w comp baffle
rs36 carbs
fast by gast race crank
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