changing valve seals and guides

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10 Mar 2013 09:55 #576317 by Granitestatekz
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On my 1100 wondering what brand of seals and guides do most like to use . motor is and will be all stock. I have never done guides , just looking for a little help. Do they just tap pound out or do I have to have them pressed out . I have have done plenty of valve shimming in the past with my old Honda CRF450 but I haven't done a head work since my XR200 days back oh 1990 ish lol. thanks for the help. Oh also I was thinking if I have the head off I was think just to get a set of stock piston rings and have the cylinder ball honed .
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10 Mar 2013 10:42 #576323 by Powerstroke_fan
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I would just go with some of the newer vition seals (i think it is). I wouldnt think brand would matter as much as long as there made out of vition. As far as valve guides go. Ive never done them myself, but iam sure you need to heat the head to get them removed. And you gotta be really careful removing them and getting new ones in. If it were mine, id be sending that to a professional shop. If the guides arent bad i probably would mess with them.

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10 Mar 2013 11:31 #576331 by OnkelB
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I've never done guides myself either for good reasons: I don't have the required tools (not sure about the skills either) plus if I f@ck up and break something it's on me, if the shop f@cks up and break something it's on them.

Also, you don't just tap out the old guides and tap in new ones, after changing them you need the seats recut and depending on installed valve stem height maybe the valves tipped - all in all a job best left to those who have the proper tools and skills.

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10 Mar 2013 11:33 #576333 by Granitestatekz
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Ok, yeah she just smokes burns oil because the seals are bad. My buddy gave me the idea to do the guides too since I was there. He used to be a powersports tech. But I can borrow the air too that will keep the valves seal so I can do the seals without removing the head. Thanks
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10 Mar 2013 12:05 #576339 by turboking
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do the viton seals . :pinch: any valve guide replacement requires valve seats to be recut. :pinch: only do guides if needed :S my.02 :blink:

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11 Mar 2013 00:34 #576460 by LarryC
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Granitestatekz wrote: On my 1100 wondering what brand of seals and guides do most like to use . motor is and will be all stock. I have never done guides , just looking for a little help. Do they just tap pound out or do I have to have them pressed out . I have have done plenty of valve shimming in the past with my old Honda CRF450 but I haven't done a head work since my XR200 days back oh 1990 ish lol. thanks for the help. Oh also I was thinking if I have the head off I was think just to get a set of stock piston rings and have the cylinder ball honed .


You can drive them out or press them out. Same goes for installation. However, beware...you will have to cut the seats afterward. Big difference between shimming lash and performing major surgery on a cylinder head.

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11 Mar 2013 00:56 #576461 by CrazyDuck
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Granitestatekz wrote: Ok, yeah she just smokes burns oil because the seals are bad. My buddy gave me the idea to do the guides too since I was there. He used to be a powersports tech. But I can borrow the air too that will keep the valves seal so I can do the seals without removing the head. Thanks


I'd be curious to how that goes for you without removing the head.

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11 Mar 2013 05:18 #576477 by bountyhunter
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VITON is the cat's pajamas. See them on ebay sometimes.

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11 Mar 2013 19:45 - 11 Mar 2013 19:46 #576567 by nads.com
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I installed ape guides 5 years ago and have the head off now.
My bike has seen mostly redline and past from racing etc.

GOOD TO GO :) and absolutely Viton seals the only ones to use.
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11 Mar 2013 19:52 #576569 by peter1958
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I replaced my guides once. Never ever again. I spent a couple days doing it. Spent hours and hours trying to get them in perfect with out a seat cutting tool. Never again. What a pita
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11 Mar 2013 22:20 - 11 Mar 2013 23:56 #576585 by wireman
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Theres this place in California you can get the parts from! :laugh:
Or you could just try APE.com in the vendor directory

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11 Mar 2013 22:50 #576591 by wireman
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Well at least you got to pay for the priveledge,Im still waiting to here back about ad prices. :laugh:
Id say that APE is definitely the direct connection for many parts :)

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