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07 Jan 2013 22:33 #566284 by THR
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Looking for information on 79 KZ1000 MKII oil flow, I know the pressure, does anyone know what the volume of the stock oil pump?
Where can I find a diagram of the oil galley?

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07 Jan 2013 23:51 #566298 by 650ed
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If you have the FSM there should be an "Engine Oil Flow Chart" and diagram in the "Maintenance-Engine" section. It describes the path the oil takes through the engine. Ed

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11 Jan 2013 00:41 #566801 by Kraz1

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22 Apr 2022 08:31 #865940 by BBBB
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I too would be interested in knowing the oil flow rate. I want to run an oil cooler. Liters per minute is critical. 

 

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22 Apr 2022 11:03 #865945 by zed1015
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I too would be interested in knowing the oil flow rate. I want to run an oil cooler. Liters per minute is critical. 


 
If you want to run an oil cooler go ahead and fit one.
It's a common mod on these bikes with no issues.
 

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22 Apr 2022 15:01 - 22 Apr 2022 15:02 #865958 by Injected
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The most reliable way to measure flow in liters/hour is to fill the crank case with 4 liters and put a hose barb fitting in place of the plug above and behind the point cover. Attach a rubber hose and put it in a pail, start the motor and run for 30 seconds exactly. Pour extracted oil into measuring cups to get volume. Use this number and multiply to get liters/hour.

If you run it for 30 seconds and only a small amount comes out you can run it another 30 seconds so it evens out to a minute (makes the math easier) I am only mentioning this because I have no idea how much will be expelled in that time period. Don't run the motor with no oil in it, overfilling for this test is no issue.
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22 Apr 2022 15:56 #865961 by DOHC
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I too would be interested in knowing the oil flow rate. I want to run an oil cooler. Liters per minute is critical. 
 
I think it's possible to calculate it.  I believe the pump is a positive displacement type.  I'm not sure which exact part to measure, but it you knew the volume of the chamber and the pump speed you should be able to calculate the flow rate.


www.michael-smith-engineers.co.uk/resour...e-displacement-pumps
 

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22 Apr 2022 18:42 #865966 by TexasKZ
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Won’t the flow vary with rpm?

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22 Apr 2022 19:32 #865971 by DOHC
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Won’t the flow vary with rpm?

I believe so.  Up to the point where the pressure relief valve opens.

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22 Apr 2022 20:02 #865976 by hardrockminer
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The pressure relief valve just allows oil into the crankcase gallery directly when pressure is high.  High is a relative term, as the KZ1000 engine operates at low pressure and high volume.  This allows the crank to run on roller bearings instead of journals.  The KZ650 engine is different.  It runs at around 35 psi and uses journals.  The crank runs on a film of oil.

I don't know the flow rate for a 1000 engine but it's much higher than a 650 engine.  That said, I don't think it's necessary to know the flow rate in order to add a cooler.  Just buy one sized to sit on the front of the downtubes.  

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