Which carbs to use?

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22 Dec 2012 11:46 #564049 by Roadflyer
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I have a kz1000st with 1045 10.25-1 pistons, 380 lift Harmon cams and a Mac 4-1.
I have the stock set of 28mm non pumper (canadian model bike) carbs on the bike right now. With the new intakes I'm putting on today it should run well. I have a line on a set of 29 smoothies for about $450 or a set of RS34's for about $225.
Now, my thinking is, the 29's offer the simplest install and original look for the bike but, $450 is a lot of money for a set of old tech carbs that will need to be gone through. ( I've never really been a believer in 1mm larger smoothies benefitting power output by much- maybe somebody could clue me in on this).
The RS34's are a bunch lighter, more compact, newer technology, have an accellerator pump, but I will need new manifolds and will have to try and blend the manifolds and intakes for them to work. I will also have to give up the stock airbox and perhaps open a can of worms with pod filters.

Your thought and opinions please!

thanks.
Don

1979 kz1000 shaftie rebuild project
1045 wiseco 10.25-1 pistons
Kenny Harmon 380 lift cams

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22 Dec 2012 11:59 #564053 by Old Man Rock
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Based on your engine build.... No brainer.

RS34's for the newer technology, smoother operations, easier to jet/dial in when required, easier to obtain parts for and as you mentioned, @ $225 that's a smoking deal for those carbs.

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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22 Dec 2012 17:37 - 22 Dec 2012 19:12 #564105 by 4TheKZ1000
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Im using RS34 on my ride....having trouble getting color on plugs.....stock carbs and setup but for these changes.

Main jet from 115 to 125

Moved needle up one.

Pilot screw is 1 turn. Book says 1/4 to a 1/2 turn....why do I have to go out to 1 turn???

Might have to change the Needle Jet up a few sizes. Im at stock 568 P-4 now.

Still abit lean on plug reading with changes.

Going to have Dyno Tuned this spring.....and get it nailed dead on!!

With your setup.....should be a boltup and go....wont have a lean problem.
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22 Dec 2012 19:10 #564116 by 893cv
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Go with the RS34's. They are easy to tune and they will give you very good drivability. I have a set of RS36's on my FJ1200 and a set for my 1980 KZ1000.

1980 kz1000 LTD
1978 Z1R

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22 Dec 2012 23:18 #564166 by Roadflyer
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Old Man Rock wrote: Based on your engine build.... No brainer.

RS34's for the newer technology, smoother operations, easier to jet/dial in when required, easier to obtain parts for and as you mentioned, @ $225 that's a smoking deal for those carbs.


Yeh, I agree, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I was a little choked that my 28's that I rebuilt were not firing on #1 at idle and part throttle. I blamed the old manifolds that were probably a bit leaky. Today I replaced the manifolds with new and improved one's. I thought it would be a good idea to check the pilot jet on number 1 for blockage. When I took the bowl off, the pilot was no where to be seen!! Doh!! I don't know how I missed that! I found it in my jet box, put it all back together and it now runs PERFECTLY!
I will probably still get the RS 34's and change them out after I get to ride the bike for a while as is ( I've never ridden this bike yet). When i get the seat rebuilt she will be ready to roll.

1979 kz1000 shaftie rebuild project
1045 wiseco 10.25-1 pistons
Kenny Harmon 380 lift cams
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22 Dec 2012 23:22 #564167 by Roadflyer
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4TheKZ1000 wrote: Im using RS34 on my ride....having trouble getting color on plugs.....stock carbs and setup but for these changes.

Main jet from 115 to 125

Moved needle up one.

Pilot screw is 1 turn. Book says 1/4 to a 1/2 turn....why do I have to go out to 1 turn???

Might have to change the Needle Jet up a few sizes. Im at stock 568 P-4 now.

Still abit lean on plug reading with changes.

Going to have Dyno Tuned this spring.....and get it nailed dead on!!

With your setup.....should be a boltup and go....wont have a lean problem.




Thanks for the input. How are the RS34's for fuel mileage on your bike? I don't care that much about fuel cost on the bike but its nice to have a decent range.

1979 kz1000 shaftie rebuild project
1045 wiseco 10.25-1 pistons
Kenny Harmon 380 lift cams

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22 Dec 2012 23:37 #564172 by 4TheKZ1000
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I really dont know, never checked as its the last thing on my mind.....idles at 1050 rpm due to cams. Have it set pretty fat...if I had to guess....maybe 20 miles to the gallon?

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