Another V.I.N.# Mark II Question

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21 Nov 2012 17:35 #559484 by z1kzonly
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Another question about Mark II engine numbers?
I have this one? Engine # KZTOOAE112367.
It came from a legends or dwarf car from 15 years ago.
It is not black at all, probally LTD.
Has the smog head. The cams have the 32 teeth sprockets.
It is oily and dirty and on the ground.
Before I tear into it, I am hoping it is Mark II.
I will be selling cases and the crank.
And are the tranny's beefier?

Thanks for any info.

Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
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21 Nov 2012 17:41 #559486 by Powerstroke_fan
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If its got two triangle gussets behind the oil fill tube its a mk11 motor. But it sounds like a mk11 motor with 32 tooth sprockets. The valve cover should be squared instead of rounded if its stock valve cover. And it should have the alt cover that has horizonal lines on it. But yes the trans and cranks and cases are all beefier.

1980 kz1000B4 LTD- 1327cc 9-1 comp
Ported J model head
Psp-3x cams
RS 36s
Welded MK11 crank
Back-cut MK11 trans
MTC 2 stage lock up
Stretched 4-6 over running Hayabusa rear rim with 190 rear tire
Complete frame brace kit installed
And Much Much more- SOLD

2014- ZX14R all stock for now

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21 Nov 2012 17:41 #559487 by wireman
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You can look on the top case for extra bracing from behind oil filler area to top of trans compared to regular kz cases.
I believe the ltds got the heavier cases in 79 then the big pin crank like the regular mkII motors in 1980.
Ive heard the trans had heavier gears
If yours has the 32t cam sprockets Im gonna guess 80 ltd since its not painted B)

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21 Nov 2012 20:29 - 21 Nov 2012 20:29 #559511 by RonKZ650
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According to Kawasaki microfiche KZT00AE110764 was the high serial number for the MKII engines, so a 112xxx is a big question. Did the LTD use KZT00AE engine serial numbers?

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21 Nov 2012 21:47 #559528 by gd4now
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Do by all means look for the additional braces on the cases, but the engine number you posted - KZTOOAE112367 - appears to fall within the range used on the '81 KZ1000-C4

Engine No. Range KZTOOAE111504 -112611

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22 Nov 2012 02:52 #559576 by wireman
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gd4now wrote: Do by all means look for the additional braces on the cases, but the engine number you posted - KZTOOAE112367 - appears to fall within the range used on the '81 KZ1000-C4

Engine No. Range KZTOOAE111504 -112611

That would make it a j-series motor if it was in an 81,motor mounts and head would be completely differant.
how about a picture of the mystery motor in question? B)

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22 Nov 2012 02:56 #559577 by trianglelaguna
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32 teeth..big pin crank

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22 Nov 2012 09:42 #559600 by etbike3135
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There was an 81 Police bike with the older KZ kick start motor. Police bikes did not follow the civilan production releases.
MKII's did not always have what is thought of as MKII motors either. I have had 2 79's that did not have the extra ribbing.

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22 Nov 2012 10:40 #559605 by Powerstroke_fan
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etbike3135 wrote: There was an 81 Police bike with the older KZ kick start motor. Police bikes did not follow the civilan production releases.
MKII's did not always have what is thought of as MKII motors either. I have had 2 79's that did not have the extra ribbing.


Ya, it could be a police bike motor.

1980 kz1000B4 LTD- 1327cc 9-1 comp
Ported J model head
Psp-3x cams
RS 36s
Welded MK11 crank
Back-cut MK11 trans
MTC 2 stage lock up
Stretched 4-6 over running Hayabusa rear rim with 190 rear tire
Complete frame brace kit installed
And Much Much more- SOLD

2014- ZX14R all stock for now

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22 Nov 2012 12:50 #559620 by z1kzonly
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Hello, Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Thanks for all the info so far.
Here are the pics.
I have no idea were it came from.
Only that it was in a small dwarf or legends race car.

I did not tell the kid what these "popy A" grind cams were or
that ported head with the bigger intake boots was anything good! :evil:

It was full of and well oiled sitting there. crank spins just fine!
As soon as my Son lifts it up on my bench, I'll open it up.
Thanks for the info.







Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!

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22 Nov 2012 14:03 #559624 by trianglelaguna
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22 Nov 2012 19:04 #559640 by Powerstroke_fan
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You could look at the rods and if its a mk11 crank it will say 1016

1980 kz1000B4 LTD- 1327cc 9-1 comp
Ported J model head
Psp-3x cams
RS 36s
Welded MK11 crank
Back-cut MK11 trans
MTC 2 stage lock up
Stretched 4-6 over running Hayabusa rear rim with 190 rear tire
Complete frame brace kit installed
And Much Much more- SOLD

2014- ZX14R all stock for now

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