Valve clearances and timing

Hi all, today I went to check the valve clearances on my 1981 kz 750 e2. First problem is that there was no clearance on any of the valves. Second problem is that I have noticed the timing chain aligned between the 47th and 48th pin as opossed to the 45th and 46th pin as mentioned in the manual.
The bike has always ran a little rough on start up, then idle high (1500 rpm) when warmed up. This could explain the lack of valve clearance as the partly opened valve would cause it to run lean when warmed up. My question though is about the timing, would it even run with what I have noticed? It was running not too bad and I am second guessing my observations.

Here is an image of the instruction I am following. I need to get some thinner shims to correct the clearance, when I do I can post an image of how it is set up

Patton wrote: These links are to info and suggestions contributed by RonKZ650:

www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/475461-re...ving-the-cams#475461
www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/249136-re...seating-issue#249136
www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/221680-revalve-clearance#221680
www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/146192-revalve-shims#146192
www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/21185-re6...lve-clearances#21185

Good Fortune!

Seems there is much info about this topic on this site. The above posts are very helpful.

Got it all back together last night, clearances checked and adjusted. The tip about using only feeler gauges in 0.05mm increments because these are what the shims come in was a good one. Also, rotating the crank slowly whilst trying to insert the gauge, another very good tip.

Here are some images of the timing as now corrected. As I mentioned in the original post, the inlet cam was set two pins further around (anti-clockwise when viewed from the photo). I have turned it over by hand, pulling the chain tight in the middle of the two cams, and all appears to be o.k. Wondering if anyone had any comment?

Fired the bike up this morning and everything worked very well. I've had the bike about 6 months, done 5,000 km. All this time with the timing out two links. Bike feels much smoother now and way more powerful.

The job was very daunting at first, but after reading up on the manual and all the great information on this forum, it became much more approachable.

Wow, cam timing was out quite a ways from your description. I wonder who worked on it putting it back with the timing out of whack?
Good to hear you got it sorted and the bike runs much much better I bet.

Glad to see you got things straightened out. You should give yourself a gold star for checking the valve timing; that really was a smart thing to do; otherwise you may have chased the problem forever with no solution. Ed