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09 Jun 2006 18:47 #53269 by kzmarvo
Since i found out that i think i have a 77 900 i was wondering if the more wanted kz1's make more power and what is so special about them? My bike papers are supposed to be in between wednesday and monday cant wait to get it!

Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)

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09 Jun 2006 19:05 #53271 by reborn650
Replied by reborn650 on topic kz1 make more ponies than a plain kz900?
Hey kzmarvo. To do a year by year comparison of the Z1 vs Kz lineup check out www.bikez.com You can cross reference pretty much any type of bike on this site. Post some pics of your '77 when you get your hands on it. You will find that the kzr members are more than helpful with any questions you might need answers to.

Cheers-Colin Firth-Ontario Canada

1977 Kz 650 Custom
1974 Ks 125 Enduro (restored)
Previously owned- Honda CBX, Honda 550 Super Sport, A dozen Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda MX'ers and Enduros.

Current ride - '77 Kz 650 Custom - (Miss July on 2006 Kzr Calendar-with last year’s restoration and engine project, a Wiseco 700) Newest rebuild includes Wiseco 810 kit, Kz750 cams, Kz750 intake valves, 750 GPz springs, Ported head, Mikuni 28's, Velocity Stacks, Dyna Ignition and coils, MAC pipe, 14 tooth front sprocket. Returning to original '77 Moon Dust Silver. Goal is to have a stock-looking, ultra-sleeper bike that will tighten up any loose dental fillings off the light and surprise other, bigger bikes.

-1977 Kz650 Custom bought new by brother. Now with 810 kit, GPz750 cams, intake valves, Mikuni 29 smoothbores, velocity stacks, Dyna Igntion, MAC pipe and other goodies.
-1982 Ferrari 308 GTSi Red/Tan
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09 Jun 2006 19:05 #53272 by Pterosaur
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Ummm. Not *ponies*. Make that *pony*.

According to the factory specs, the 900 put out 81hp, the 1000 scaled the lofty heights and peaked at 82.:woohoo:

Actually, it's the earlier Z1 - Z1A Z1B 900s that are the most desireable collector-wise, given an approximation of stock configuration.

A couple of years ago, a clean '73 Z1 would bring between $20 - 25k in Japan from collectors.

Absolute *SCADS* of money was made from the early 90s up to about 2000 or so by a number of exporters that bought up early Zs and CB750s for pennies on the pound and shipped them either to Europe or Japan.

That's why early Zs - especially nice originals - are fairly rare birds these days.

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09 Jun 2006 19:23 #53276 by steell
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reborn650 wrote:

Hey kzmarvo. To do a year by year comparison of the Z1 vs Kz lineup check out www.bikez.com You can cross reference pretty much any type of bike on this site.


Just don't accept everything there at face value, I just looked at the KZ750 specs there, and they say there is a 11 lb difference between dry weight and wet weight:S
Must be some kind of "New Math" :D

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09 Jun 2006 19:32 #53279 by ambergrismooon
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kzmarvo wrote:

Since i found out that i think i have a 77 900



There was a 77 900? I thought it bumped to 1000 in 77. Learn something every day...er...night. Did they do a split production?

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09 Jun 2006 19:37 #53281 by reborn650
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steell wrote:

reborn650 wrote:

Hey kzmarvo. To do a year by year comparison of the Z1 vs Kz lineup check out www.bikez.com You can cross reference pretty much any type of bike on this site.


Just don't accept everything there at face value, I just looked at the KZ750 specs there, and they say there is a 11 lb difference between dry weight and wet weight:S
Must be some kind of "New Math" :D


I agree with steell, but the site can give you some general background info to get you started.

I have learned not to believe everything that I read (especially on the Internet) and I own a newspaper publishing company:)

Cheers-Colin Firth-Ontario Canada

-1977 Kz650 Custom bought new by brother. Now with 810 kit, GPz750 cams, intake valves, Mikuni 29 smoothbores, velocity stacks, Dyna Igntion, MAC pipe and other goodies.
-1982 Ferrari 308 GTSi Red/Tan
-Toyota FJ Cruiser - 6 speed tank
-2010 Mazda CX-7 Turbo (my bride's)
-1998 Jeep TJ Wrangler 4.0...

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09 Jun 2006 19:50 #53285 by steell
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ambergrismooon wrote:

kzmarvo wrote:

Since i found out that i think i have a 77 900



There was a 77 900? I thought it bumped to 1000 in 77. Learn something every day...er...night. Did they do a split production?


According to the 77 KZ900 A5 info page at Zedder they did, and since they give the frame number range, it's probably true. And I know there was a 77 KZ1000 because I had one in 79 :)

Post edited by: steell, at: 2006/06/09 22:52

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09 Jun 2006 19:57 #53287 by kzmarvo
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Cool, thanks for the site. the numbers off the neck on the bike i am waiting for is 514979, someone on here said it is a 77, but i am not sure cuz i have yet to get it home and play with it..

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09 Jun 2006 20:01 #53288 by kzmarvo
Replied by kzmarvo on topic kz1 make more ponies than a plain kz900?
Hey i just looked up on that bike site and it says there was no kz900 made in 1977?

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10 Jun 2006 12:12 #53444 by steell
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Year & Model '77 KZ900-A5
Color(s)
(1) Dia Dark Green
(2) Dia Brown

Frame No. Range Z1F-510341 - 515578
Engine No. Range Z1E086001 - 138846

According to the link in my above post.

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10 Jun 2006 14:54 #53457 by Garn
Replied by Garn on topic kz1 make more ponies than a plain kz900?
KZmarvo, comparing the Z1 with the KZ900, the only thing I can think of that would make the Z1 produce more power is the carbs; 28mm as opposed to the 26mm on the KZ900.

The Z1 series, mainly through being the best machine in the era in which it was produced, makes them collectable ..... It may have something to do with that name bestowed upon them.... "King of the Road".

RegardZ

PS. Steell, I have a '75 KZ900-A4 that is dia brown. Dia green was produced the same year. I haven't heard much about the A5. I thought it was produced in the Nabraska factory... I didn't know it went thru to '77. I do know that they started to produce KZ100's late '76.

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10 Jun 2006 16:46 #53472 by steell
Replied by steell on topic kz1 make more ponies than a plain kz900?
For the record, I know next to nothing about the 900's, I just searched with Google and quoted (and linked) what I found :)
I do know that I bought a `1977 KZ1000 in 1979 for $250.00, and it was manufactured 8/76

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