KZ440 Ring Replacement questions.

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18 May 2012 21:58 #523243 by Jay98
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Would it be beneficial to hone the cylinder without replacing the rings? And if not, where can I get a good inexpensive set of rings. What size are they. All I can find are .2 mm and .5mm.

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18 May 2012 22:06 #523246 by Patton
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Jay98 wrote: Would it be beneficial to hone the cylinder without replacing the rings? And if not, where can I get a good inexpensive set of rings. What size are they. All I can find are .2 mm and .5mm.

Year and model KZ440?

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1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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19 May 2012 00:31 #523267 by Jay98
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1980 kz 440A ltd

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19 May 2012 01:02 #523271 by Patton
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Google 13008-5029 to locate several sources for the standard rings.

Would also inquire at Z1 Enterprises for price and availability.

Could also check these links for any info as to possible parts sources for such as rings.
Click > www.armbell.com/forum/index.php?c=6&sid=...571a51a&mforum=kz400
Click > www.kz400.com/

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1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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19 May 2012 01:06 #523272 by Jay98
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So you recommend ring replacement and not just honing.

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19 May 2012 01:25 - 19 May 2012 01:28 #523277 by bountyhunter
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Jay98 wrote: So you recommend ring replacement and not just honing.

How many miles? It may not need either.

If you do hone, replace the rings.

Ebay often has cheap sets.

It's too bad because cyclewareables.com had new piston/ring sets for both the 440 and 750 twins dirt cheap but they stopped carrying them recently, or at least they no longer list them. I got them for my KZ-750 twin rebuild a couple of years ago.

1979 KZ-750 Twin
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19 May 2012 01:30 - 19 May 2012 01:33 #523278 by bountyhunter
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Jay98 wrote: Would it be beneficial to hone the cylinder without replacing the rings? And if not, where can I get a good inexpensive set of rings. What size are they. All I can find are .2 mm and .5mm.

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Be careful, that sounds like "over" specs. Rings and pistons come in standard, "0.25mm over", "0.50 mm over", etc up to 1.0mm over.

make sure the rings match the pistons you have.

FYI, these are 0.50mm over standard:


1979 KZ-750 Twin
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19 May 2012 01:37 #523279 by Jay98
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24000+ miles on the odometer. I can see discoloration in the cylinder jugs above where the pistons sat for some time. Pistons were pretty carboned up so I have them removed and am cleaning them, replacing all seals, valve's need cleaned or replaced and valve seals.

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19 May 2012 01:38 - 19 May 2012 01:41 #523280 by bountyhunter
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Jay98 wrote: 24000+ miles on the odometer. I can see discoloration in the cylinder jugs above where the pistons sat for some time. Pistons were pretty carboned up so I have them removed and am cleaning them, replacing all seals, valve's need cleaned or replaced and valve seals.

Check wear in cylinders, probably doesn't need honing but might not hurt. Depends if it was abused. I didn't have to bore my 750 until about 70k miles.

EDIT: saw the stock Kawi rings at babbittsonline.com for about $50/set.

1979 KZ-750 Twin
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29 May 2012 20:18 - 29 May 2012 20:20 #525734 by dfinnegan71
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When buying an OEM set for say about $40.00 does that come with all three rings for all 4 pistons?
I ask because I just got a gasket kit to relplace both the head and base gasket due to leakage. I am thinking while I'm at it a new set of rings wouldn't be a bad idea.

1981 GPZ 550 mild custom
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29 May 2012 21:30 #525754 by DoubleDub
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dfinnegan71 wrote: When buying an OEM set for say about $40.00 does that come with all three rings for all 4 pistons?
I ask because I just got a gasket kit to relplace both the head and base gasket due to leakage. I am thinking while I'm at it a new set of rings wouldn't be a bad idea.


A. They are talking about a two cylinder engine.
B. The ring part numbers are typically per cylinder for the four cylinder bikes, as far as I am aware.

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