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24 Apr 2012 13:53 #517789
by Brett0424
80/81 KZ440 frankenstein
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I understand that cam chain timing can't be super precisely adjusted. I'm setting it now and moving back and forth one notch on the chain won't get the cam sprocket arrow completely parallel to the cylinder head. In this scenario is it preferred to have the arrow pointing slightly up, slightly down or does it not matter? In one position the arrow looks level before the tensioner is installed, then the tensioner makes it point slightly down. Should this be the position I go with? Thanks.
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24 Apr 2012 14:26 - 24 Apr 2012 14:31 #517793
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1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
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Replied by loudhvx on topic Timing adjustment
If the tensioner is changing the cam timing, then something is wrong. Maybe you are turning the motor the wrong direction. Or you are not getting the chain tight when doing the alignment.
On the twins:
The tensioner is on the front of the motor, so that is the slack side. The engine should only be turned in the direction opposite of the wheels.
When you check the timing, the chain, from crank to intake cam, should already be tight, so changes in tensioner should not affect the timing.
The inline-fours spin the opposite way, so everything is reversed.
On the twins:
The tensioner is on the front of the motor, so that is the slack side. The engine should only be turned in the direction opposite of the wheels.
When you check the timing, the chain, from crank to intake cam, should already be tight, so changes in tensioner should not affect the timing.
The inline-fours spin the opposite way, so everything is reversed.
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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24 Apr 2012 15:13 #517803
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Replied by bountyhunter on topic Timing adjustment
On my 750 twin, I had to put some tension on the chain using the tensioner to keep the chain on right. Only turn the crankshaft counterclockwise which is the normal direction of rotation viewed from the timing cover end. If the cams arrows don't line up with the head, something is wrong.
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24 Apr 2012 15:59 #517811
by Brett0424
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Replied by Brett0424 on topic Timing adjustment
Well they are off but only slightly. Is there anything that could be wrong that I could check? The manual says to tighten the chain after setting timing. If you tighten the chain on one side it seems normal that it would turn the sprocket that way very slightly, but I guess not?bountyhunter wrote: If the cams arrows don't line up with the head, something is wrong.
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24 Apr 2012 19:54 #517847
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I don't know unless the chain just has too much stretch wear.
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25 Apr 2012 03:34 #517955
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So I got it back together. It turns, has fuel and has spark but won't start. Does this mean my timing is off? Will a bike just not start if the timing is off? I figured it would start but just run poorly. This sucks. Should I take it all back apart and try the other position?
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25 Apr 2012 13:14 #518013
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Replied by Bahlzeron on topic Timing adjustment
You may need to have a certain number of pins/links on the timing chain between the alignment marks on the cams. Also make sure the cams are in their proper locations/ facing proper direction (don't ask... it's easy to miss that)
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