KZ550-C1 LTD :: Heavy clutch
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KZ550-C1 LTD :: Heavy clutch
05 Aug 2011 14:08
Hiya! Drove home from work today without a clutch, as the wire snapped. Not too dramatic, but I'm just pondering as to "why".
Explanation: I bought the bike no more than a week ago. The owner stated that he had "replaced the clutch and wire", but that the "wire was a bit short" causing the occasional spin. It didn't take me too long to figure out how to adjust the clutch properly, and I got rid of the spin (after pulling apart the release mechanism to mend a worn adjuster). But the clutch was darn heavy, and the wire finally snapped on me as I started her up this afternoon.
Now this could be attributed to two factors: The wire did have a small angle near the lever as it was admittedly quite tight, even after derouting it a little by the engine/frame - it was so tight I couldn't get it attached to the lever without forcing it good and proper over several attempts. I also struggled tightening it enough to work properly. Second, the amount of force needed to engage the clutch seems over the top, though I don't have another bike for comparison. This would cause excessive wear on the cable.
- Could the snapped wire be for a different KZ550 (e.g. A, G) and therefore too short?
- How hard should the clutch be to engage?
- What can cause a heavy clutch? Wire and release was fine.
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Explanation: I bought the bike no more than a week ago. The owner stated that he had "replaced the clutch and wire", but that the "wire was a bit short" causing the occasional spin. It didn't take me too long to figure out how to adjust the clutch properly, and I got rid of the spin (after pulling apart the release mechanism to mend a worn adjuster). But the clutch was darn heavy, and the wire finally snapped on me as I started her up this afternoon.
Now this could be attributed to two factors: The wire did have a small angle near the lever as it was admittedly quite tight, even after derouting it a little by the engine/frame - it was so tight I couldn't get it attached to the lever without forcing it good and proper over several attempts. I also struggled tightening it enough to work properly. Second, the amount of force needed to engage the clutch seems over the top, though I don't have another bike for comparison. This would cause excessive wear on the cable.
- Could the snapped wire be for a different KZ550 (e.g. A, G) and therefore too short?
- How hard should the clutch be to engage?
- What can cause a heavy clutch? Wire and release was fine.
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Re: KZ550-C1 LTD :: Heavy clutch
05 Aug 2011 14:58
tHe factory KZ 550 clutches are really light and usually silky smooth.
When someone replaces the clutch with an aftermarket set of friction disks, they slip a lot with the factory springs. So they put in heavy, aftermarket springs. I tried them and they were super heavy compared to the factory setup. I spent the little bit extra for the factory disks and new factory springs and I was back to the easy, smooth clutch.
The heavy pull clutch would make my arm ache in just a few miles of city stop-and-go.
The factory pull is almost two-finger easy.
The stell plates should be de-glazed too as long as you're in there.
If you do a search, probably a bunch of threads on 550 clutches will come up.
BTW, when I was doing the clutch work, I asked several local speed shops what to use. They all said don't waste money on any aftermarket clutch regardless of brand. Only use the factory clutch.
When someone replaces the clutch with an aftermarket set of friction disks, they slip a lot with the factory springs. So they put in heavy, aftermarket springs. I tried them and they were super heavy compared to the factory setup. I spent the little bit extra for the factory disks and new factory springs and I was back to the easy, smooth clutch.
The heavy pull clutch would make my arm ache in just a few miles of city stop-and-go.
The factory pull is almost two-finger easy.
The stell plates should be de-glazed too as long as you're in there.
If you do a search, probably a bunch of threads on 550 clutches will come up.
BTW, when I was doing the clutch work, I asked several local speed shops what to use. They all said don't waste money on any aftermarket clutch regardless of brand. Only use the factory clutch.
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Re: KZ550-C1 LTD :: Heavy clutch
05 Aug 2011 15:43
Weight/grade of oil being used? Most "Car Oils" contain friction modifiers not compatable with the starter and wet plate clutches in motorcycles. "Oil is Oil" is not the same on a motorcycle...
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Re: KZ550-C1 LTD :: Heavy clutch
06 Aug 2011 04:07
Thanks for the tips! I did notice some posts on aftermarket springs yesterday evening, and it is very likely that the previous owner used a set of heavier springs. I haven't changed the oil yet either, but I know I should - although it has been "regularly changed", I don't know WHEN, what oil and whether he's changed the filter or not.
I read up on oil types yesterday, and I guess I'll be searching for a proper brand/type before changing - reading ingredients while checking the board on my mobile...
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I read up on oil types yesterday, and I guess I'll be searching for a proper brand/type before changing - reading ingredients while checking the board on my mobile...

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Re: KZ550-C1 LTD :: Heavy clutch
06 Aug 2011 09:46
As someone who installed the aftermarket springs in the same model bike, 10% heavier. I was happy with the results. Didn't notice much extra pull at the lever, and had no issues with any of the cable or release mechanism. But I did disassemble and clean/ lube the release mechanism as well as using a cable oiler on the cable. I think it was probably the original cable, 1980 with 20K miles.
I wouldn't think that the springs themselves would be causing the cable to snap pre-maturely.
Then in my 1000 I have a set of aftermarket clutch friction discs that are from Japan. I have put several thousand miles on with no issues.
I wouldn't think that the springs themselves would be causing the cable to snap pre-maturely.
Then in my 1000 I have a set of aftermarket clutch friction discs that are from Japan. I have put several thousand miles on with no issues.
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