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16 Feb 2011 12:58 #431089 by PLUMMEN
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give them the number off your filter when you go in,theyll cross referance it to their filter for ya.

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16 Feb 2011 15:13 #431111 by Motor Head
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16 Feb 2011 15:15 #431112 by TomW
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650ed wrote:

OK, I'll start the flaming B) - FRAM filters are junk; I use K&N. Here's an unscientific comparison. If you look at the pics and read the comments I think you'll agree that FRAM should not be your first choice. Even though the comparison is done between can type filters for a Honda instead of the open element type used by KZs, I'm quite sure the relative quality of the different filters still applies (for example, compare the number of pleats).

Motorcycle Oil Filter Comparison


Interesting, verrry interesting. I've heard slams on Fram filters before, but no substantial or documented reasons for them. I've been using Fram in my car, truck and motorcycle for years and never had a oil related failure on any of them.

To check on the scooter filter I hauled my old one out of the trash and cut it open. By the criteria used in the link posted here the Fram CH 6013 as sold by Z1E would score quite high. The end caps and case are heavy gauge metal with a rubber grommet on each end to seal to the motor, and the O-rings are included.There was no excess glue on either end oozing out to raise questions about quality control. In fact I had a heck of a time trying to pry off the end cap and resorted to a hack saw to open the case. There were 55 pleats in the filter media and the media was a fairly thick paper so more pleats would have crowded the space available possibly restricting the flow of oil. Could be important considering the low pressure available in the Z motors. The biggest difference was in the size of the filter area. The KZ filter was 3" high whereas the ones tested were only about 1-1/2" The areas was 206 sq. in. for the KZ filter.

So to my unscientific eye the relative quality of the two types is not consistent. Perhaps the fact that the canister type hides the crappy construction whereas in the open cartridge type the construction is there for all to see dictates better quality construction in the cartridge filters.

So for my cars and truck I'll look for Purolators, for the bike I'll be OK with Fram until someone shows me that the filter media sucks.

I gotta get a life. Here I am cutting open old oil filters. YUUK!!!

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16 Feb 2011 15:36 #431113 by z1kzonly
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I have used Fram filters since 1978, I ordered a case, 24 filters, from my friends shop, 78 or 79. "Nucherenos Auto Supply". I will have to look around. I have one that the box is faded in color it is so old.
I never had any problem! But I also changed the oil every 1000 miles, just for the hell of it.
I also used to get "ShellCraft Aviation Oil" SAE grade 70 weight. Thats right 70 weight. This oil was not available to the general public. Summer time of course.
And I beat the snoot of of these bikes!
They don't make stuff like they used to!!!!!

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16 Feb 2011 16:12 #431120 by PLUMMEN
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Napa's page doesn't have Kawi's anymore, just Honda and some other rubbish. I'll have to stop in and see if they still make the filter for my bike and what it runs.

try ps 4942 for napa filter B)

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16 Feb 2011 16:27 #431123 by TeK9iNe
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I use the Emgo filters from Z1E.

Drop my pan every season. No problems so far...

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16 Feb 2011 16:44 - 16 Feb 2011 16:45 #431126 by DoubleDub
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PLUMMEN wrote:

DoubleDub wrote:

Napa's page doesn't have Kawi's anymore, just Honda and some other rubbish. I'll have to stop in and see if they still make the filter for my bike and what it runs.

try ps 4942 for napa filter B)


Geeze...as boring as this thread has gotten I might as well have asked whether creamy or crunchy is better...

I found www.napafilters.com which has a cross reference search. Thanks for the part number, though.
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16 Feb 2011 16:48 #431127 by DoubleDub
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TeK9iNe wrote:

I use the Emgo filters from Z1E.

Drop my pan every season. No problems so far...

B)


Thanks, they closed the Napa on my side of town and it's a 45 minute round trip to the nearest one now. I'll probably just order the Emgo because I <3 Z1Enterprises.

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16 Feb 2011 19:00 #431171 by dejavoodo41
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I started using the Emgo's after I did a oil change after using a Fram and it had a tear in the pleats. The K&N's are hard to come by for my bike in this area so I get the Emgo's from Z1E and haven't had any issues with them.

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17 Feb 2011 15:26 #431321 by Vter Bob
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I only use WIX in both bikes. I like the fact that the WIX filters come with both o-rings. I've seen those "orange" filters dissolve and destroy a friends engine.

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17 Feb 2011 16:53 #431343 by larrycavan
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I ran Fram on a 4 cylinder Toyota for years, never had a problem. I put 200,000 miles on that car and then sold it for $200. That guy ran it until the body fell apart....

I run OEM filters in my KZ.

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17 Feb 2011 16:54 #431345 by DoubleDub
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I didn't even know OEM filters were available? Who makes them for Kawi?

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