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04 Feb 2011 20:09 #428616
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just wanted to know if it is cool to just change 1 set of rings, i am oil fowling on number 4, took off the heads,
not the jugs yet, but all the pistons are tight , no wiggle.
with rings over $60 a piston was wanting to know if i could change just the rings on number 4, thanks
not the jugs yet, but all the pistons are tight , no wiggle.
with rings over $60 a piston was wanting to know if i could change just the rings on number 4, thanks
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04 Feb 2011 20:14 #428618
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hap1968 wrote:
you can do anything you want.....but why? imo, unless the rings are practilly new....change em all. jmo!...Joejust wanted to know if it is cool to just change 1 set of rings, i am oil fowling on number 4, took off the heads,
not the jugs yet, but all the pistons are tight , no wiggle.
with rings over $60 a piston was wanting to know if i could change just the rings on number 4, thanks
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04 Feb 2011 20:43 #428626
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'80 Z750fx
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Did you verify that the problem isn't valve related?
It would suck to change the rings and still not fix the problem. 30 year old valve seals let a lot of oil past if they've never been changed.
It would suck to change the rings and still not fix the problem. 30 year old valve seals let a lot of oil past if they've never been changed.
'80 Z750fx
'81 KZ550A
'81 GPz550's, Too many!
'82 KZ1000R
'82 GPz750
'90 ZR550
Project photo album: s163.photobucket.com/albums/t289/mg15_ph...GPz-ZR550%20project/
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04 Feb 2011 22:15 #428642
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1979 KZ-750 Twin
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On my 750 twin, oil fouling the plugs has always been caused by a bad valve guide seal. The oil drips down after you turn it off and fouls the plugs. Every time I had to tear mine down it was bad valve seals. I didn't have to rebore until I hit 80k miles.
1979 KZ-750 Twin
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08 Feb 2011 16:14 #429521
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my compresion on all 4 was 160, all the valves look the same, the numer 4 piston top is cleaner
then the rest, all the valves have the same little bit of wiggle in them when i put them in the guide, every thing looks great thats what puzzles me.
will a bad oil ring affect compression?
then the rest, all the valves have the same little bit of wiggle in them when i put them in the guide, every thing looks great thats what puzzles me.
will a bad oil ring affect compression?
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08 Feb 2011 16:38 #429526
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82 Honda ATC 200-sold
82 Yamaha Virago 920-sold
82 Yamaha YZ250j-kept
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Replied by 550A2 on topic change 1 set of rings?
Rings are damn expensive! I bough some for my bike, and I though I was buying the whole set for that price for some reason. Got them in the mail and was dissapointed. So I didnt put em on. Just honed the cylinders, lapped the valves, and installed new valve seals.
With those compression numbers I would say your rings are good. But a bad valve seal on that cylinder will not show up on a compression test becaust the valve, the valve seat, and the rings do the sealing of the combustion chamber.
My guess is valve seals, possibly valve guides but less likely. Valve seals would be a cheap fix.
Also if you do take the jugs off and dont replace the rings, i would check them out, and hone the cylinders.
good luck
-Luke
With those compression numbers I would say your rings are good. But a bad valve seal on that cylinder will not show up on a compression test becaust the valve, the valve seat, and the rings do the sealing of the combustion chamber.
My guess is valve seals, possibly valve guides but less likely. Valve seals would be a cheap fix.
Also if you do take the jugs off and dont replace the rings, i would check them out, and hone the cylinders.
good luck
-Luke
82 Honda ATC 200-sold
82 Yamaha Virago 920-sold
82 Yamaha YZ250j-kept
80 Suzuki GS 550-sold
82 Kawasaki KZ550 A2-ride all the time
79 Kawasaki KZ650 C-sold
73 Kawasaki Z1 900E-paid $200, sold $6000
86 Yamaha Radian YX600-new project
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08 Feb 2011 16:43 #429527
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Replied by CoreyClough on topic change 1 set of rings?
160 psi is great for a 550. When you get down to 120, then worry about it.
Do a hot dry compression test(all spark plugs removed, and a completely charged battery), then a hot wet(adding a little oil in the spark plug hole) to see what the difference is.
If you remove the head to replace rings, do all of them, not just one. In the process, have the head rebuilt as well. Do it once, do it right, and be done with it.
Do a hot dry compression test(all spark plugs removed, and a completely charged battery), then a hot wet(adding a little oil in the spark plug hole) to see what the difference is.
If you remove the head to replace rings, do all of them, not just one. In the process, have the head rebuilt as well. Do it once, do it right, and be done with it.
'85 GPz550(ZX550-A2)
GPz550 Base Manual --> tinyurl.com/ze5b3qo
GPz550 Supplement Manual --> tinyurl.com/h34d2o6
GPz550.com --> www.nwsca.com/scripts/gpz_forum_2005/default.asp
First Race Win GPz550 --> tinyurl.com/o5y3ftp
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