what makes a head gasket leak?

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13 Nov 2010 10:03 #412525 by John T
what makes a head gasket leak? was created by John T
1984 GPZ1100
I bought this bike semi disassembled...
previous owner broke a head stud while attempting to change the head gasket... gave up and sold it to me. (cheap) B)

I put it all back together with APE studs and nuts... but foolishly used the same head gasket he was using.
sprayed it with copper spray ... which didnt help

and of course it is leaking again...
not a big deal... I now have a new head gasket...

but I am wondering if maybe the head is warped?

is there a way to check the head/cylinder mating surface to be sure?

Or would I need to bring it to a machine shop for a special procedure?

I'd hate to do the gasket and have it leak again..

otherwise, the bike runs great... I rejetted the carbs with 140 mains and 40 pilots... pod filters and kerker 4 into 1 with no baffle...
runs great...

thanks for any help.

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13 Nov 2010 10:20 - 13 Nov 2010 10:23 #412526 by John T
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a couple pics of each side.
seems to be leaking at each end , where the smaller bolts are.

as you'll notice, the right side smaller bolt has a nut on the bottom.. the hole felt like it was beginning to strip so I put in a longer bolt and put a nut on the bottom.
and torqued it according to the kawi. specs.

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13 Nov 2010 10:45 #412527 by stonemaster
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never reuse head gasket, buy new one torque correctly, no leaks

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13 Nov 2010 11:37 #412532 by bountyhunter
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John T wrote:


but I am wondering if maybe the head is warped?

is there a way to check the head/cylinder mating surface to be sure?

steel straight edge laid across in several angle directions

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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13 Nov 2010 15:20 #412558 by Splandman
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The answer to your question is my friend John. He's blown two this year.

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13 Nov 2010 17:04 #412565 by timebomb33
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if the head and block surfaces are square. once you have run the motor for a few heat cycles retourque the head nuts again that should stop it from leaking.

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13 Nov 2010 18:26 #412578 by larrycavan
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You need to jump on the retorque after the first heat cycle.

What kind of head gasket ?

If you swap it again, have the head surfaced & not on a belt sander.

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13 Nov 2010 19:31 - 13 Nov 2010 19:32 #412596 by John T
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larrycavan wrote:

What kind of head gasket ?
some kind of aftermarket composite 2 piece. not sure the brand.. I now have a stock kawasaki head gasket

If you swap it again, have the head surfaced & not on a belt sander.what method would you recommend?

:unsure:

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13 Nov 2010 21:52 - 13 Nov 2010 22:38 #412623 by Patton
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larrycavan wrote:

...retorque after the first heat cycle....

Here's one method:

Upon completing reassembly and running engine one time long enough to attain normal operating temperature (say, take an easy little ride), then allow the engine to cool overnight.

Next morning, on cold engine, re-torque the head in the pattern specified by the FSM.

When re-torquing, just tighten to spec. Don't first back off a little before re-torquing.

It's okay if the nut doesn't further tighten during the re-torque.

Good Fortune! :)

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KZ900 LTD
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13 Nov 2010 22:07 #412624 by Patton
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Perhaps of interest, some general basics:
Click > www.aa1car.com/library/ar996.htm

Not a diy job, imho (at least for me).

Good Fortune! :)

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