sealing an aluminum spacer/gasket

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29 Oct 2010 13:51 #409794 by martijn
sealing an aluminum spacer/gasket was created by martijn
Anyone experience with sealing an aluminum gasket between cilinder and crankcase? I'm going to use it as a spacer to get a lower Compression Ratio....(turbocharger that is)
Do I use 2 standard gaskets, silicon sealer, gleu??

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29 Oct 2010 19:08 #409838 by DoubleDub
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I don't, but I'm curious about how you are handling any timing differences caused by the spacer, as well as the question you are asking.

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29 Oct 2010 19:09 #409839 by DoubleDub
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Also, what engine is this on and what thickness is the spacer? Is it going below the cylinders?

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29 Oct 2010 21:07 - 29 Oct 2010 21:09 #409854 by bountyhunter
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I think a product like 3-Bond or similar is right because they use that to seal engine half cases together without gaskets.

I guess you would have to slot the cams to be able to zero the cam timing onto the mark?

1979 KZ-750 Twin
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29 Oct 2010 22:18 #409875 by Tony
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Having just gone through this with my bike I have a bit of info on this subject. Just make sure you get the proper spacer for your engine. Don't use the one size fits all. Cometic will custom build one for your exact size of sleeve.
I had some issues with this(oil leak from base gasket) and after disassembling/reassembling my engine probably 6 times trying different configurations of spacer and base gasket with a "one size fits all" I ordered the proper one and that fixed the problem.

I have some pics to share if your interested.

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30 Oct 2010 06:28 #409904 by Old Man Rock
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Here's what Larry and Plum turned me onto.... ;)

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For gaskets and especially in copper gaskets if using...
Due to MRE's milling crapola :angry: I had to double up my cylinder base gasket... Coated both gaskets, both sides, no leaks what so ever... ;)

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Smear a light coat on valve cover gaskets, no leakies... ;) When checking valve clearances, old gaskets come off cleanly and easily... And yes, I replace mine with new gaskets, for $10, hell you bet....

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Split cases.... I also used this under the aluminum head end caps ;) ..... No leakies.

APE, Z1 and especially Schnitz for gaskets....

www.schnitzracingstore.com/catalogs/cata...93304&showprevnext=1

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MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

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30 Oct 2010 09:01 #409925 by larrycavan
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I know how I'd do it. I know what works for me. I'll just shut up though because I've seen too many times where what works for one guy doesn't work for the next.....then you're an arse because your advice wasn't any good :woohoo:

Most important thing is PREP! Do it right....happiness. Do it wrong :(

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30 Oct 2010 12:52 #409957 by martijn
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DoubleDub wrote:

I don't, but I'm curious about how you are handling any timing differences caused by the spacer, as well as the question you are asking.


its a for a kz1200 and a 750 twin. And I always set lobe centers after overhauling since the cams are non stock. So I geuss I'm save:lol: Using 1,5mm spacer...

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30 Oct 2010 23:10 #410031 by z1kzonly
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Hi Larry, Does permatex still make "Hylomar" they had paste and a liquid spray.
Elmer Trett said that this was the only stuff that would seal the fueler heads. Jim Mangus said the same.
I had some 15 years ago.
Hylomar!

Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
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Starts everytime!

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31 Oct 2010 06:56 #410053 by larrycavan
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z1kzonly wrote:

Hi Larry, Does permatex still make "Hylomar" they had paste and a liquid spray.
Elmer Trett said that this was the only stuff that would seal the fueler heads. Jim Mangus said the same.
I had some 15 years ago.
Hylomar!


Google shows it's still available.

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