Bent valves 1974 z1 900 with kz 1000 head.

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04 Oct 2010 20:11 #404096 by oldkaws4ever
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Sorry for not being around at all lately. I have been riding the z1 everyday this past summer. Well I must have revved the old girl up to high and ben the valves when i was out riding this last weekend :( If you guy's remember i replaced the z1 900 head with the kz 1000 head when i rebuilt it the last time, now my question now is, can i use my z1 900 valves in the kz 1000 head?

74 Z1a 900 (Apart and making it better than ever)
77 Kz 650b (Threw a rod, going to sandwich in a 900 or 1000 motor)
76 Kz 400d
05 ninja zx-636
81 Kz 750 Ltd
Darien, Illinois

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04 Oct 2010 20:21 #404098 by Sandy
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Yup...just be sure to use the proper split-keepers.

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04 Oct 2010 20:26 #404100 by oldkaws4ever
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Should i use the split keepers from the 900 then? Thanks Sandy you're the man :)

74 Z1a 900 (Apart and making it better than ever)
77 Kz 650b (Threw a rod, going to sandwich in a 900 or 1000 motor)
76 Kz 400d
05 ninja zx-636
81 Kz 750 Ltd
Darien, Illinois

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04 Oct 2010 21:25 #404106 by PLUMMEN
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yep,match keepers and valves.
how many did ya tag? B) pretty hard to bend a valve without really beating on things B)

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04 Oct 2010 21:33 #404109 by oldkaws4ever
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Well the Tach cable bit the bullet early on in the ride, i'm guessing i was at 9000 or so. I tagged 4 of em the only cylinder that came out unscaved was #2. Live and learn i guess .......... lol.

74 Z1a 900 (Apart and making it better than ever)
77 Kz 650b (Threw a rod, going to sandwich in a 900 or 1000 motor)
76 Kz 400d
05 ninja zx-636
81 Kz 750 Ltd
Darien, Illinois

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04 Oct 2010 21:42 #404110 by PLUMMEN
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what have me and your mother said about shifting at 9000rpm? :laugh: that motor was probably done making power closer to 7500-8000 :(

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04 Oct 2010 23:48 #404121 by oldkaws4ever
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lol........i know i know im sorry dad :P Like i said that was a guess I think im going to put on an electronic tach this time around

74 Z1a 900 (Apart and making it better than ever)
77 Kz 650b (Threw a rod, going to sandwich in a 900 or 1000 motor)
76 Kz 400d
05 ninja zx-636
81 Kz 750 Ltd
Darien, Illinois

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05 Oct 2010 01:38 #404125 by trianglelaguna
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sorry to hear that...you must really be abusing that motor to have it dump on you...i have had close to 15 z's and never "blew" a motor...now crashing...that is my strong point....even that i have broken myself of these later yrs...

it does amaze me though that bikes are constantly turning up broken on this site....except for changing oil,the occasional valve adjustemnt and a few regulator rectifiers...i have never ,ever,had any trouble with Z-1,KZ1000,KZ900,LTD1000,Z1R,GPZ 1100, ect...ect........

I'm sorry to hear your bike is down...

if you are banging it that hard the rest of the stuff should be replaced at the same time...all timing and piston and springs ect...imo....it must be well used...

good luck

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2003 ZX12R
2007 FZ1000
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05 Oct 2010 04:17 #404134 by Old Man Rock
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Hey Jim,

Well keep in mind, tag her @ 9K when considering if these were original 30 year old valves, yeah they've been around for quite some time now.... Have had some hot shot young man (Jim) twisting her hard for the adrenalin rush/pull all these years...

May want to consider new Kibble White valves & springs...;) especially if your running the old girl hard as it seems you are.... :ohmy: :woohoo:

Damn kids these days... :blush: :laugh: :laugh:

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1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
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Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
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05 Oct 2010 04:58 - 05 Oct 2010 05:01 #404137 by otakar
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I have revd my GPz well over 11K numerous times and not bent any valves yet. I take it to 9K regularly in every other shift. You must not have built the head right or adjusted something wrong to have bent them. How do you know that you bent them? Did you visually check them? Or is the engine just doing something to make you think you did? By the way, don't you owe me something from the last time you stopped over?

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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05 Oct 2010 08:15 #404169 by APE Jay
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9000 is about the limit for stock springs. You might want to consider good springs when you put it back together.

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05 Oct 2010 15:34 #404277 by seanbarney41
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Oldkaws4ever...you've had a destructive/expensive season after throwing a rod on the 650 on the way to Rockerbox. Ah well, breakin' stuff just forces ya to get new stronger stuff!

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