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18 Sep 2010 10:07 #399614 by tmstoltz
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My bike had been hard to start when cold, low comp.not rings, im sure its the valves, when it warms up the comp. is 120 to 125 per cylender. when cold 40 to 50 psi. i have been putting 85 octain gas in it, my friend said posibly carbon build up around the valves. is there a good additive that will clean them? and what all should i do, octain boost, add a lot of cleaner to the tank.

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18 Sep 2010 10:20 #399616 by Patton
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If not already done, thinking a leak-down test could be helpful toward diagnosis.

Good Fortune! :)

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18 Sep 2010 10:31 #399621 by MFolks
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Engine Chemicals
Mopar Combustion Chamber Cleaner # 04318001. Designed to remove carbon from combustion chambers & valves.

www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Ring-Additive-32oz...-32-00/dp/B002GUCLH2 (Yamaha Ring Free)

Yamaha Carb Cleaner # ACC-CARBC-LE-NR

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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18 Sep 2010 11:49 #399646 by bountyhunter
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You can do the Seafoam thing on the engine when it's hot. Draw it in through the intake vacuum lines and let it sit ten minutes, then run it. It will blow a ton of carbon out.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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18 Sep 2010 12:29 #399652 by TeK9iNe
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tmstoltz wrote:

My bike had been hard to start when cold, low comp.not rings, im sure its the valves, when it warms up the comp. is 120 to 125 per cylender. when cold 40 to 50 psi. i have been putting 85 octain gas in it, my friend said posibly carbon build up around the valves. is there a good additive that will clean them? and what all should i do, octain boost, add a lot of cleaner to the tank.


A properly tuned engine will continue to run for many years if not abused, and the jetting is correct. I would deffinately fix the condition causing this issue, rather than throw a band-aid on the resulting problem.

Could be a combination of too rich at a comonly used throttle position, and oil leaking past valve seals, making for a nasty combo piling up on the valves/seats.

You can just pull off the carbs/header and have a look with a mini mirror and flashlight.

Or... you can just throw some crap in the tank every so often! :laugh:

Good luck!

B)

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79 Kawie Z1000 LTD
81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
Lucky to have rolled many old bikes through my doors ;)

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18 Sep 2010 13:13 #399656 by PLUMMEN
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somebody get otto on the stage! :woohoo:

Still recovering,some days are better than others.

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18 Sep 2010 13:19 #399658 by hocbj23
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Otto's Ointments for Ornery Engines--thats what we need.bj

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18 Sep 2010 14:01 #399669 by PLUMMEN
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take it out on the highway and run the hell out of it hard,that will clean the ol carbon out of her! B)

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18 Sep 2010 14:11 - 18 Sep 2010 18:22 #399672 by otakar
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationSince I will never live you guys down, than here it is. ;) :lol:

Please follow the instructions in this thread.
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...ew&catid=2&id=369254

EDIT
Here is a reprint of my instructions on how to properly use the "Combustion Chamber Cleaner.
All of the following items will do the job the same way. I bought a case from the eBay seller because it was the most inexpensive.



This is what I do. The best way to use the "spray" combustion chamber cleaner" is to;
1) heat up the engine to full operational temperature.
2) remove the spark plugs while hot.
3) Set pistons "about" half way between TDC and BDC.
4) Spray in the cleaner until it comes out the hole.
5) replace the spark plugs immediately.
6) wait until the engine cools down, or till next morning.
7) go for a VERY BRISK ride for about half an hour.
8) repeat step 1-7, 3-4 times.
Now you have a clean engine
9) use the Lucas in every tank.
10) step 1-7 may or may not be required about every 10,000 mi dependent on how much oil you burn. This is what my pistons looked like after more than 24,000 miles after doing steps 1-8.




74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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18 Sep 2010 15:26 #399700 by tmstoltz
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just tryed this hope it works

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18 Sep 2010 15:27 #399702 by tmstoltz
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just tryed this good day for it.

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18 Sep 2010 16:30 #399710 by larrycavan
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otakar wrote:

Since I will never live you guys down, than here it is. ;) :lol:

Please follow the instructions in this thread.
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...ew&catid=2&id=369254


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