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14 Sep 2010 14:10 #398694 by DaytonaMC
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Hello, I have a KZ650 engine that I need to know the year of and, all I have are the engine case numbers. Can anyone tell me which year it is or point me to a way to find out? The numbers are KZ650BE051664. Any help in solving this mystery is a great help, thanks.

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14 Sep 2010 15:30 #398708 by RonKZ650
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It's a 1978 model.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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14 Sep 2010 16:08 #398716 by DaytonaMC
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Thanks I really appreciate it. Is there some way to decipher these? I know how Harley does theirs but,I would like to know about kawasaki's way.

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15 Sep 2010 07:27 #398849 by RonKZ650
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I have the parts microfiche used by Kawasaki for KZ650 and KZ1000. They list all the info there is where I got it. There's places on the web that try to do it like zedder.com, but a lot of times they are not correct.

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15 Sep 2010 07:52 #398851 by Mcdroid
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Unfortunately, www.zedders.com doesn't cover 650's, for some unknown reason. If you google KZ650, you'll get several sites that list frame/motor VINs by year, but also unfortunately, they also are fraught with errors. Ron is correct, it is a 1978 KZ650B motor. To decipher the VIN:

KZ = Kawasaki Z series, 'K' implies it was marketed in North America

650 = engine size (actually 652cc)

B = model series

E = motor VIN number

# = 051664 sequential motor number installed in a frame

Other Kawasaki's have slightly different motor VINs and which additional information can be distilled from. You should also realize that just because the motor is a 'B' series, doesn't mean it was in a 'B' model KZ650 ... Kawasaki had a history of using the same series numbers in several concurrent models.

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15 Sep 2010 13:37 #398917 by Kingchiefa
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While we are on the topic of engine numbers. I have a KZ1000 LTD B3 frame# KZT00B-520107(79 LTD B3) Engine # KZT00-AE076926 (according to zedder is an MKII engine #) could one of you confirm this?

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15 Sep 2010 15:10 #398939 by Mcdroid
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Kingchiefa wrote:

While we are on the topic of engine numbers. I have a KZ1000 LTD B3 frame# KZT00B-520107(79 LTD B3) Engine # KZT00-AE076926 (according to zedder is an MKII engine #) could one of you confirm this?


Well, you realize your frame and motor were not originally married. That said, www.zedder.com ID's your frame as a B3, and your motor as in the series originally from a KZ1000A3 (which would make the motor a MKII motor)...and zedder also ID's your motor as from the motor series of the KZ1000C1A model...which would make your motor not a MKII motor. If you really want to know, I suggest you find all those characters that define a MKII motor and the next time you have the engine apart, confirm its identity.

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15 Sep 2010 16:07 #398945 by RonKZ650
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One thing for sure is the MKII engine was black where the LTD and police would be silver. Good easy clue.

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16 Sep 2010 07:46 #399089 by Kingchiefa
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I know the MKII was black, I don't get the Engine numbers though, i mean they are stamped right on the case. how could it be two different numbers?

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16 Sep 2010 08:39 #399099 by Mcdroid
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If you are referring to why the same number was listed for two different models (making one motor a MKII and the other not a MKII), it is the old GIGO axiom. AKA Garbage In Garbage Out. The Zedder site is only as good as the information it is based on. If erroneous information was originally posted, and posted in error, then you won't know what is correct until you verify it yourself. To do that, find a list of characters of the MKII motor and see if your motor exhibits those characters.

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16 Sep 2010 12:28 #399121 by Kingchiefa
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Mcdroid wrote:

If you are referring to why the same number was listed for two different models (making one motor a MKII and the other not a MKII), it is the old GIGO axiom. AKA Garbage In Garbage Out. The Zedder site is only as good as the information it is based on. If erroneous information was originally posted, and posted in error, then you won't know what is correct until you verify it yourself. To do that, find a list of characters of the MKII motor and see if your motor exhibits those characters.


Ok I get it. Well the motor is def not MKII. Sucks to find out that it is not the original motor also. Still a kick ass ride and I won't be getting rid of it.

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