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20 May 2010 19:44 #369422 by Big_Wheel
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Hello,

Ive read through a bunch of posts concerning a ticking coming from the engine during idle. Its too low of a frequency to be considered valves so Im thinking its the cam chain. The bike is a 1984 ZN750 so it has the auto tensioner. Im thinking of just putting the manual tensioner in it to see if it makes a dirrerence. What do you guys think?

Things to note:
-noise disappears at higher rpms and appears more prominent during colder starts.
-bike runs great (crisp throttle response, lots of power throughout the range, no flat spots, etc.)

Thanks,
Curtis

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20 May 2010 20:36 #369433 by mjkawa
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Hey Big wheel, to my ear, a loose cam chain is much more like a rattle than a tick.
But it could be.
Just because it has a auto tensioner, doesnt mean that is working correctly. Maybe take it apart, and make sure that it is functioning.

Also, noise probably is drowned out by the engine noise at higher rpms.

just my .02

MJ

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20 May 2010 21:45 #369447 by bountyhunter
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small exhaust leak can sound like a click.

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20 May 2010 21:58 - 20 May 2010 22:00 #369450 by Patton
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bountyhunter wrote:

small exhaust leak can sound like a click.

+1

After checking and gently snugging exhaust clamp nuts, could remove spark plug caps one at the time which might help determine which cylinder has the exhaust leak, as lack of combustion may reduce the ticking.

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21 May 2010 16:59 #369638 by Turtle
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+2

Exhaust leak may be the issue, and a cheap fix.

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21 May 2010 17:15 #369641 by Motor Head
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I use 1/4" fuel line on my mechanics stethoscope, but just the hose to you ear will work really good to find a noise. Have you checked your valve clearence? How many miles is on it? You can replace the springs on the auto tensioner cheap.

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21 May 2010 17:56 #369656 by PLUMMEN
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synch your carbs

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21 May 2010 18:07 #369661 by TeK9iNe
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PLUMMEN wrote:

synch your carbs


and get a manual ;)

It makes a huge difference to perform all of the necesary maintenence.

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31 May 2010 12:02 #372335 by Big_Wheel
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Thanks everybody!

I have a service manual (both clymers and haynes) but a factory one would be perfect. I checked for exhaust leaks and there doesn't appear to be any. I have just installed the manual timing chain tensioner but I haven't thrown the carbs back in quite yet (Ill post an update in about an hour).

Some more background info:

-its got 36,000 kilometers on the odo.
-valve clearances within spec.

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31 May 2010 12:03 #372336 by PLUMMEN
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why did you use a manual tensioner? B)

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31 May 2010 13:09 #372359 by Old Man Rock
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"I have just installed the manual timing chain tensioner"...

Did it Ticky-Tick pre this installation?

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31 May 2010 19:21 #372477 by TeK9iNe
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Big_Wheel wrote:

I have just installed the manual timing chain tensioner


One thing to remember... the manual tentioner does need to be periodically tightened from time to time.

:laugh: Hence the manual part.

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