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21 May 2010 07:48 - 21 May 2010 07:56 #369515 by btkz650
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Oh duh, I see it now on the left as #30. I just noticed this diagram is different than the one in the manual I downloaded. Mine doesn't show that piece.
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21 May 2010 14:13 #369598 by Patton
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:unsure: With the carbs at hand, is #43 side-located pilot air screw there also (see pic below)?

Good Fortune! :)


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KZ900 LTD
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21 May 2010 16:37 #369628 by btkz650
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Yup.

Patton wrote:

:unsure: With the carbs at hand, is #43 side-located pilot air screw there also (see pic below)?

Good Fortune! :)

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22 May 2010 00:35 #369721 by Patton
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Here's a comparison between manual slide carbs.

Side-located pilot air screw in on airbox side of carb

Bottom-located pilot mixture screw is on engine side of carb.

Have heard of but am unfamilar with a manual slide carb having both type pilot screws.

Good Fortune! :)

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22 May 2010 05:30 #369743 by btkz650
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Yes, I've been reading about them. That's what mine have. Mixture screw in the bottom and air screw in the sides.

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22 May 2010 09:44 - 22 May 2010 09:46 #369794 by rstnick
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There have been a few discussions of these style carbs at kz650.info.
Here's an old post I found, but I know there was a recent one, just can't find it at the moment.
forums.kz650.info/index.php?PHPSESSID=f7...63193dd&topic=1484.0

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22 May 2010 12:06 - 22 May 2010 12:11 #369826 by Patton
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Patton wrote:

Here's a comparison between manual slide carbs.

Side-located pilot air screw in on airbox side of carb

Bottom-located pilot mixture screw is on engine side of carb.

Have heard of but am unfamilar with a manual slide carb having both type pilot screws.

Good Fortune! :)

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Carb model with only bottom-located pilot mixture screw air screw has a pilot air jet "1" at entrance to pilot air passage.

Carb model with only side-located pilot air screw has no pilot air jet at "2" entrance to pilot air passage.

Wondering whether the rare carbs with both pilot screws have the pilot air jet "1" at entrance to pilot air passage, because no such jet appears on the diagram at kawasaki.com (posted earlier and again in following post).

Just guessing, but speculating that rare carb model with both side-located pilot air screw and bottom-located pilot mixture screw uses the pilot air screw function in place of the pilot air jet function.

Have seen scant tuning ideas about the rare carbs with both pilot screws. One suggested screwing the bottom located pilot mixture screw fully closed (removing it from the equation), and just using the side-located pilot air screw as if it was the only pilot screw. Another idea was to fine tune using both screws, but don't recall the sequence or method.

Perhaps detailed carb tuning information would be found in the FSM for the particular year and model on which such carbs appear.

Good Fortune! :)

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KZ900 LTD
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22 May 2010 12:10 #369827 by Patton
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Patton wrote:

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A pilot air jet isn't shown.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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22 May 2010 18:57 #369947 by btkz650
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Thanks for all your help, but I think I bit off more than I could chew with this one so I sold it today. Going to get one that runs this time and then modify it.

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