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08 May 2010 05:51 #366387 by fireguy55
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Is there supposed to be engine oil in the Stator/dynamo cover of a 75 kz400d? I saw some dripping so I took the cover off and there was probably 6 ounces in there. Anyone that knows, please let me know

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08 May 2010 06:02 #366391 by Kawickrice
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Not sure about the 400 but the 900/1000 motors "do" have oil in the stator cover

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
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75 Suzuki GT550
74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
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08 May 2010 06:08 #366393 by JMKZHI
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I don't know about the KZ400, but the 81 KZ650 doesn't.

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08 May 2010 06:21 #366395 by Kawickrice
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JMKZHI wrote:

I don't know about the KZ400, but the 81 KZ650 doesn't.


True my 650 does not my 900 does. Time for a little research

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
1
Long Gone
75 Suzuki GT550
74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
72 Honda CL 175
74 Honda QA 50
Tampa FL

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08 May 2010 06:44 - 08 May 2010 06:49 #366397 by hugo
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I don't think there should be any oil in there if it exposes the coils and electrical windings. They should be as dry as possible. Any liquid will weaken the insulation, and is just a matter of time before it fails. The crankcase should have an oil seal behind the alternator. Of course this oil seal may eventually go bad.
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08 May 2010 06:50 #366399 by Kawickrice
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Oil in the stator does not sound right but the 900 is designed that way on purpose.

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
1
Long Gone
75 Suzuki GT550
74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
72 Honda CL 175
74 Honda QA 50
Tampa FL

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08 May 2010 07:00 #366403 by otakar
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ALL KZ900/1000/1100s ZN1100 Zx1100A KZ1300 Zn1300 KZ750 ZX750A have oil in the stator area. You will have to get the manual for your particular bike and find out

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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08 May 2010 07:07 #366406 by otakar
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Here is a simple way to find out if the oil belongs there or not. With that cover removed, put an oil pan under that side of the bike. Tilt the bike to about a 45* angle toward that side and see if oil pores out. If it dose, than the oil belongs there. If it do not, or just drips out than the oil do doesn't belong there. Simple.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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08 May 2010 10:02 #366447 by hocbj23
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shop manual for kz1000/1100 as part of stator removal says "place an oil pan under bike." sounds like they expect oil to be in there but dont say how much.bj

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08 May 2010 11:11 #366465 by otakar
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We have already determined that the 900/1000/1100 has oil in there we just don't know if the 400 is supposed to have oil there.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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08 May 2010 11:23 - 08 May 2010 12:22 #366469 by Patton
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otakar wrote:

ALL KZ900/1000/1100s ZN1100 Zx1100A KZ1300 Zn1300 KZ750 ZX750A have oil in the stator area. You will have to get the manual for your particular bike and find out.


You will have to get the manual for your particular bike and find out. --- Yes, the FSM should have a detailed lubrication diagram showing all oil flows.

For example, the FSM lubrication diagram for large fours shows a few drops from the crankcase going through the crankcase bearing area on into the alternator section.

Good Fortune! :)

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08 May 2010 12:09 - 08 May 2010 12:11 #366483 by loudhvx
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I believe the bikes that have the starter clutches under the alternator cover have oil accesible to the alternator. However, it should never be full, it's usually a tablespoon full or so. That would be on the KZ400 twins, KZ750 twins, and the 900/1000/1100 bikes. The 650/750-4 and 550/500/400-4 bikes had the starter clutch in the transmission case so their alternator housings should be bone dry.

If I recall correctly, the oil just occasionally gets splashed in there on the 400 through the left crankshaft bearing which is a non-sealed ball type. There also may be a cutout in the wall to let the oil return to the crankcase.
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