How to tell if engine has been bored out.

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22 Apr 2010 16:26 #362451 by jimstan
I have very little history on what engine work was done to
to my 1975 Z1B.
So my question is how can I tell if the engine has been bored out ?
My seat o pants meter tells me that something good was done as she really Rip's.



Thanks Jim

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22 Apr 2010 17:12 #362459 by keith1
Replied by keith1 on topic How to tell if engine has been bored out.
jimstan wrote:

I have very little history on what engine work was done to
to my 1975 Z1B.
So my question is how can I tell if the engine has been bored out ?
My seat o pants meter tells me that something good was done as she really Rip's.



Thanks Jim



if it rips , ya hate to tear it open....but thats the only way i know of to measure bore......you can pull cam cover and see if the cam ends have any markings on them and measure a lobe and the base circle and the diff is the lift....see if that is bigger than stock......

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22 Apr 2010 17:23 #362461 by Old Man Rock
Replied by Old Man Rock on topic How to tell if engine has been bored out.
Obviously one way is undesirable in that remove the head and measure the piston/cylinder bore diameters.... :blink:
Over 70mm then yup, been bored out...

1015cc = 70mm
1045cc = 71mm
1075cc = 72mm
1105cc = 73mm
1135cc = 74mm
1197cc = 76mm

Pretty much anything bigger would require big block and this would be quite noticeable...

Another less intrusive but non 100% way would be to get her on a Dyno... Pending other mods such as Keith mentioned Cams, carbs, head P&P if your up in the mid to high 90's in HP, more then likely it has had some internal work accomplished...

OMR

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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22 Apr 2010 17:57 #362470 by otakar
Replied by otakar on topic How to tell if engine has been bored out.
Put a bore scope inside the spark plug hole and see what the shape of the piston dome is.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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22 Apr 2010 17:58 #362472 by timebomb33
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1327 cc = 80mm bore
1393 cc = 82mm bore
1428 cc = 83 mm bore those numbers will really give you some zip.

1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE

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22 Apr 2010 18:04 #362475 by otakar
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timebomb33 wrote:

1327 cc = 80mm bore
1393 cc = 82mm bore
1428 cc = 83 mm bore those numbers will really give you some zip.


He would know if he has those sizes because he would have a big-block on the engine.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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22 Apr 2010 18:11 #362481 by jimstan
Replied by jimstan on topic How to tell if engine has been bored out.
Thanks for your info,

One last quick question: Would the cylinder compression change if it was bored out ?
As well as it runs I will just enjoy it until I have to do a rebuild.

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22 Apr 2010 18:15 #362482 by larrycavan
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jimstan wrote:

Thanks for your info,

One last quick question: Would the cylinder compression change if it was bored out ?
As well as it runs I will just enjoy it until I have to do a rebuild.


All else being unchanged...yes it will go up some but you can't just lean on that number as gospel.

Pull a plug, bring a piston up near tdc, lookin the hole and see if it's got a real dome.

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22 Apr 2010 18:17 #362484 by timebomb33
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the only way it change cranking compression would be if they put higher compression pistons in it.

1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE

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22 Apr 2010 18:50 #362492 by larrycavan
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Increased cylinder volume squeezed into the unchanged combustion chamber size and unaltered cam timing should raise the static a hair...not a lot. You won't be able to tell from the PSI number with any certainty unless it's really up there.

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22 Apr 2010 19:50 #362501 by Skyman
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How to tell if your engine is bored?

It yawns. Seems disinterested. Keeps looking at its watch.

:laugh: :silly: :blush:

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22 Apr 2010 20:01 #362504 by PLUMMEN
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Skyman wrote:

How to tell if your engine is bored?

It yawns. Seems disinterested. Keeps looking at its watch.

:laugh: :silly: :blush:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Still recovering,some days are better than others.

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