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23 Feb 2010 22:43 - 23 Feb 2010 22:46 #349888 by ironpan65
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Moving shims around (900 engine)...I noticed the "A" mark on some of them
Just curious if this is supposed to mean anything:huh: ?

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24 Feb 2010 04:11 #349898 by roy-b-boy-b
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I believe thise are the ones prone to shattering. Roy

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000

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24 Feb 2010 06:22 #349908 by BSKZ650
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thought the A was half size,, but I will need to go to the shop and measure mine to see

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
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24 Feb 2010 06:28 #349909 by RonKZ650
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No difference.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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24 Feb 2010 07:04 #349913 by otakar
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RonKZ650 wrote:

No difference.


+1 I concur.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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24 Feb 2010 07:13 #349916 by Mcdroid
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otakar wrote:

RonKZ650 wrote:

No difference.


+1 I concur.


I've measured both (within a size) and there is no difference.

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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24 Feb 2010 07:24 #349917 by JakeB
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I just pulled my shims out last night, I have a couple with the 'A' and one that has a 'Y' in front of the number. :huh:

Don't the shims that were prone to breaking have a dimple in them? The 'A' shims that I have don't have any dimples in them.

1978 Z1-R

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24 Feb 2010 07:35 #349921 by Mcdroid
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JakeB wrote:

I just pulled my shims out last night, I have a couple with the 'A' and one that has a 'Y' in front of the number. :huh:

Don't the shims that were prone to breaking have a dimple in them? The 'A' shims that I have don't have any dimples in them.


Y = Yamaha, but will work...Jeff Saunders also mentioned that Ford SHO shims are also 29mm.

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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24 Feb 2010 09:23 - 24 Feb 2010 09:27 #349935 by Patton
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As Roy says, I too have heard that dimpled shims were prone to shattering. And the lower shim in the above posted photo appears to have a dimple.

The FSMs don't seem to mention the dimple issue with either shims or tappets. :unsure:

My understanding from the 1974 Chilton's Kawasaki 900Z1 manual is that the original tappets (aka buckets) with navel (aka dimple) in tappet/shim mating area (P#12032-004 used up to engine #Z1E-08979) sometimes caused shim fracture, and were replaced with new design tappet P#12032-005, with recommendation to replace all old style tappets and also replace shims used with the old style because the shim may have begun to fracture.

But Chilton doesn't mention dimpled shims. :S

Hoping someone will better clarify this dimple business. Meanwhile, I would avoid shim or bucket with dimple.

Good Luck! :)



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