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keeping oil ring from overlapping
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patience! :laugh:
x2....and being VERY careful.
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Makes things pretty easy... if your careful, and patient.
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1- If the oil expander rings are not painted, get two different color paint sticks and mark the end of each expander ring so you can see better.
2 - A generous chamfer on the cylinder sleeve will help the ring guide in smoother. Most times when a block has been bored, the chamfer is either gone or marginal. I always use a die grinder and a K-Roll to put that chamfer back in there. Make sure you re-prep the block if you've already prepped it once and are going back in to grind the chamfer.
3 - As was mentioned, large hose clamps make good ring compressors but you have to watch a couple of things.
a] Using some 400 paper, sand the inside surface of the clamp so there are no burrs. Those little slots where the screw grabs the clamp can have burrs on them that can scratch the rings & piston.
b] Apply oil on the inside of the clamp and also to the rings.
c] Apply oil to the bottom of the bore, up to about your first knuckle.
Position the end gaps of the oil expanders on which ever side of the motor [front or back] is easier for you to keep an eye on]
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I have seen videos on Utoob of people using compressors on car pistons, where they put the compressor on the rings, then take the piston, which is not on a rod, and use the end of a hammer to gently tap them into the bores sliding them out of the compressor. Would I just compress the rings as tight as I can where I can still slide them off, then insert the pistons into the bores, and once I have everything lined up and set just slowly pull the clamp down the piston while I drop the block on top? Would this make things actually any easier than just being really careful and doing it without the hose clamp?
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Am doubtful as to application for overbores, and don't know what's in the plastic bag.
Good Luck!
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Just take your time and think positive when you're doing the job.
If you take on any job and have negative thoughts in your mind......it goes much harder. Seriously, think positive!
In the plastic bag in the photo above are piston support wires. The slide under the skirts and would help you greatly with installing the block.....I have had those for many years.
The KAW OEM Ring compressor is bulky to handle IMO. I've used it before and prefer fingers or hose clamps.
Hose clamps work great if you take precautions to prevent scratching the pistons and just use a little common sense.
Install hose clamps so the top ring land is above the clamp. That gives the sleeve something to get hold of so the block starts down properly without rocking the piston all over.
Snug the clamp, then when block is sitting on all the pistons, hold the block down with the palm of your hand and loosen the clamps 1/4 turn. Use a mallet to begin tapping the block down. Start in the center. Tap it evenly and watch as you go.
One all 4 pistons are up in the bore far enough so the rings can't pop out, get the clamps off. It gets a little tight for space once the block is down that far.
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Its not really that hard. In fact, the most difficult part for me is maintaining a meticulous ring spacing while holding the block on either side from above, and using my fingertips to pull the piston up into the cyl. :laugh:
Good luck.
Are you implying that you were not honest previously!hmm, interesting. to be honest...
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