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25 May 2009 20:26 #294046
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Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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I was told that running my pipe cut way short and open will burn the valves around 4000 miles or so,is this true?
Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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25 May 2009 21:01 #294065
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Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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theres a reason why we used to shove a towel in the end of an open header after racing,ive since learned to run atleast an endcap
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26 May 2009 06:40 #294126
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1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!
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Having an exhaust like that allows cool air to go up to the hot valves and possibly warp them.
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26 May 2009 15:40 #294182
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1979 KZ-750 Twin
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Bluemeanie wrote:
Yep, that's what I was taught as well.Having an exhaust like that allows cool air to go up to the hot valves and possibly warp them.
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26 May 2009 15:58 #294187
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Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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When the bike is off is that what you mean?
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26 May 2009 16:45 - 26 May 2009 16:45 #294203
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1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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kzmarvo wrote:
When a hot motor is first shut off, am guessing the towel stuffed into exhaust is to help keep the hot air inside the pipe and prevent cooler outside air from entering the pipe and traveling up to the hot exhaust valves and cooling them too quickly.
Was taught not to run the engine without headers attached (exhausting from head ports directly into open air), as that exposes hot exhaust valves to open air whereby the valves may be warped.
Am thinking that running headers alone isn't so risky as running without headers. But don't know how short the headers could be without genuine risk.
Am thinking that running just headers likely results in poorer overall performance, even if it doesn't risk exhaust valve damage.
And that racing performance will be better with a good 4>1 exhaust system, and poorer if just running open headers.
Good Luck!
When the bike is off is that what you mean?
When a hot motor is first shut off, am guessing the towel stuffed into exhaust is to help keep the hot air inside the pipe and prevent cooler outside air from entering the pipe and traveling up to the hot exhaust valves and cooling them too quickly.
Was taught not to run the engine without headers attached (exhausting from head ports directly into open air), as that exposes hot exhaust valves to open air whereby the valves may be warped.
Am thinking that running headers alone isn't so risky as running without headers. But don't know how short the headers could be without genuine risk.
Am thinking that running just headers likely results in poorer overall performance, even if it doesn't risk exhaust valve damage.
And that racing performance will be better with a good 4>1 exhaust system, and poorer if just running open headers.
Good Luck!
1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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26 May 2009 17:04 #294207
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Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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lemmee get a pic on here...1 sec
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26 May 2009 17:10 - 26 May 2009 17:11 #294208
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Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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27 May 2009 06:14 #294329
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1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!
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Very nice looking, what kinda swing arm ya got back there? Would highly recommened running some kind of muffler as the PoPo wouldn't like you!
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27 May 2009 06:24 - 27 May 2009 06:27 #294332
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1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE
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the only guy's that you will ever see running open shorty pipes like that are guys that are running injected nitro in there big inch drag motors and hillclimbers that are running huge amounts of alcohol through their 1400cc+motors and the do it mostly because of ease of maintenence easier to remove and replace one pipe than 4 after it has been crushed it isn't for a performance advantage that's for sure. i can tell you from personal experiance after running straight wide open pipes for awhile on ridgid framed xs650 they are a total nightmare when it comes to the gestapo you might as well put a sign around your neck saying kick-me. the cops were on me all the time until i put mufflers on it. and lo and behold the bike ran better as well. so two benifits came out and slapped my hard core biker ass the bike ran better and the coppers were gone so good news on both fronts. and what the hell is that sign over your door way it had better be leading to the bathroom!!!!!!!!!!
1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE
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